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by Rumin8
07 Apr 2019, 17:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Types of Changes OR What to Watch For in GC
Replies: 8
Views: 520

Re: Types of Changes OR What to Watch For in GC

I too was disappointed. Not so much that not much was announced, but how we buy into the whole “take your vitamins” rhetoric. This can’t help but NOT live up to the hype. As for the WoW changes, it won’t affect me much one way or another. I’m on record with my wife that if it were sanctioned (or not...
by Rumin8
05 Apr 2019, 12:23
Forum: Introductions
Topic: What to carry with me
Replies: 11
Views: 1359

Re: What to carry with me

Welcome, Daughter1! You are among friends. What a great journey you have in front of you! I am excited for you! This experience we share is "all the things." All emotions. I wish you the best with your journey and experiences. There are lots of resources and threads on this site that will help you. ...
by Rumin8
05 Apr 2019, 12:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'
Replies: 56
Views: 2625

Re: Church to allow baptisms, blessings for children of LGBT parents, updates handbook regarding 'apostasy'

My nephew is gay and is in an openly gay relationship. My brother is gay and is married to a woman and they have a child together. Each are happy, in their way. I can't really understand either lifestyle, except to say where there is love, let love be. I haven't spoken to my brother yet, so I don't ...
by Rumin8
05 Apr 2019, 10:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The Courage This Change Took
Replies: 27
Views: 1034

Re: The Courage This Change Took

I had an interesting conversation with my somewhat orthodox wife last night about this reversal. I shared that I was extraordinary happy that they reversed course on something I felt in my bones was very wrong in 2015 up to now. It nearly forced me out of the church back then, and only didn't becaus...
by Rumin8
05 Apr 2019, 10:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The Church Purge of the Latter Days
Replies: 24
Views: 1495

Re: The Church Purge of the Latter Days

I can't remember the last time there was an actual discussion in any of my classes about the 2nd coming. It seems so de-emphasized that it's actually something I haven't thought about in my deconstruction process of the past few years. I'm actually stunned by this. Maybe my head is in the sand. I wo...
by Rumin8
05 Apr 2019, 10:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How is the new ministering program going?
Replies: 10
Views: 714

Re: How is the new ministering program going?

I was a horrible HT. I am a great "minister." IF that means that engage my assigned people when I see them and offer support and love when I can. Shoot them a text when I notice their rain gutter is plugged, etc. Of course I also do these kinds of things for people I'm not specifically assigned to. ...
by Rumin8
03 Apr 2019, 09:24
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Atonement
Replies: 15
Views: 529

Re: Atonement

From Richard Rohr: Historically we moved from human sacrifice to animal sacrifice to various modes of seeming self-sacrifice, usually involving the body. For many religions, including immature Christianity, God was distant and scary, an angry deity who must be placated. God was not someone with who...
by Rumin8
03 Apr 2019, 09:20
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Atonement
Replies: 15
Views: 529

Re: Atonement

https://lehislibrary.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/cleon-skousens-intelligence-theory-of-atonement/ One interesting thing that I remember from the document was that it was presented that there were clues scattered through the scriptures about this "doctrine" and you had to find the clues and piece them ...
by Rumin8
02 Apr 2019, 12:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Atonement
Replies: 15
Views: 529

Re: Atonement

Maybe a year ago, the SS instructor asked the question "How does the atonement work?" I responded by saying that Clean Skousen had a theory that is essentially the penal substitution theory but with the intelligences of the universe demanding punishment for breaches of moral law rather than God him...
by Rumin8
01 Apr 2019, 15:07
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Saving Ordinances
Replies: 28
Views: 1334

Re: Saving Ordinances

I'm trying to let go of the literalism of scripture. It's interesting that this has been easier for me to do this with the bible, than it is for the BoM. Perhaps because I have been taught since birth that the bible was fallible but the BoM was the literal word of god via a direct link from JC/God t...