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by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 11:06
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1933

Re: The role of apologizing

I don't understand how an apostle of the church make this statement, and then expect its members to do just the opposite. Especially in reference to how we teach the repentance process starting in primary. I don't get it.
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 11:03
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1933

Re: The role of apologizing

Because he is human? Because he didn't want to open a floodgate of demands by everyone who felt wronged in some way? Because he didn't want the Church to have to try to figure out what warranted an apology and what didn't - and have people condemn the decisions in some way, regardless? Because he f...
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 09:58
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1933

Re: The role of apologizing

we get this burden continually while the church refuses to in order to maintain an image of perfection. I have to confess, this was one of the stumbling blocks for me in the church. won't go into details, but when we were terribly wronged by a church agency, we received two letters back from our co...
by cwald
08 Apr 2015, 09:08
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Article about dissenting votes
Replies: 21
Views: 964

Re: Article about dissenting votes

I cant imagine the time where I would actually cast a dissenting vote. Mostly because I think those people are doing the best they can with what they have for the most part. I have much more issues and problems with the organization, the corporation, the church itself, not necessarily the local lead...
by cwald
08 Apr 2015, 09:01
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1933

Re: The role of apologizing

As a friend and not an admin: Don't be a troll, cwald. Honor the wishes of the people who write posts here. At some point you have to forgive others and apologize for your own mistakes. Until you do that, blasting others for not doing it merely is hypocritical and a sign of bitterness that is cance...
by cwald
08 Apr 2015, 08:59
Forum: Support
Topic: Does it get easier to walk the NOM path?
Replies: 19
Views: 1129

Re: Does it get easier to walk the NOM path?

I feel your pain. I would not call myself a NOM. At the request of family, I no longer claim or pretend to be Mormon... at all. It is a liberating feeling actually. .. now i can just be. I consider myself to be a humanist. I consider myself to be a Pantheist which is basically an atheist on steroids...
by cwald
06 Apr 2015, 18:22
Forum: Support
Topic: Follow the Prophet, and everyone else...
Replies: 15
Views: 956

Re: Follow the Prophet, and everyone else...

I think this is just the logical consequences or fruits of perpetuating teaching like the 14 Fundamentals of the Prophet.

Sorry. I've lived the horrors of this kind of fruit for several years within my own family. It sucks.
by cwald
06 Apr 2015, 16:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General Conference - April 2015
Replies: 150
Views: 5625

Re: General Conference - April 2015

I found the Pearson talk to be quite insulting and potentially harmful to the masses. Perhaps one of the worst GC messages since GC October 2011 with the 14 Fs of the Prophet and the Two Lines of Communication. I didnt care for Hales or Perry message. Otherwise, i have no real problems with the othe...
by cwald
06 Apr 2015, 15:44
Forum: Support
Topic: Someday We Will Have To Forgive
Replies: 28
Views: 1150

Re: Someday We Will Have To Forgive

I was directing my DHO quote at a specific comment made by Roy. I have edited my post by quoting Roy, so as not to be considered a "troll" or appear to "misrepresent" or accused of "drive by bombing.". Roy Wrote: Forgiving church hurt or church abuse is complex because the church generally seems lik...
by cwald
06 Apr 2015, 14:37
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1933

Re: The role of apologizing

journeygirl wrote:I think an apology shows humility....an apology it would start the forgiving process, but without it the grudge festers. I remember as a teen I would quickly apologize to my friends and our problem resolved...
I agree. It's a quite simple and elementary principle really.