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by cwald
13 Apr 2015, 12:33
Forum: Support
Topic: The Role of Institutional Apologizing
Replies: 13
Views: 806

Re: The Role of Institutional Apologizing

Thanks Roy.

I guess i am wrong and I APOLOGIZE and will take back my comment that the church has apologized for MMM. I am sorry for mistake.

I think you have summed up very well what I have been trying to express only to get moderated. So thank you for chiming in.
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 19:55
Forum: Support
Topic: The Role of Institutional Apologizing
Replies: 13
Views: 806

Re: The Role of Institutional Apologizing

The church must apologize for past racism. I don't disagree with your statement, but I do wonder to what end? While I believe it would be good for church PR, beyond that what else is to be accomplished? I don't think an apology really rights those wrongs. My thinking is still evolving on this topic...
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 16:50
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Unorthodox Mormon seeking support.
Replies: 16
Views: 2463

Re: Unorthadox Mormon seeking support.

KeitherB wrote:I wont get excommunicated for what I believe but I can lose my temple recommend for what I believe and I can face church discipline for expressing beliefs contrary to official church doctrine in a public forum. Like I just did.
Yep.

I wish it wasn't so.

welcome to stayLDS.
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 16:32
Forum: Support
Topic: The Role of Institutional Apologizing
Replies: 13
Views: 806

Re: The Role of Institutional Apologizing

I don't really begrudge or believe the church is racist today. That is because people like BRM admitted he was wrong and the church pretty well have apologized (kind of) for past racism practices and statements. Thanks Urchtdorf. ;) I think the same could be said of MMM. I do think the church needs ...
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 14:11
Forum: Support
Topic: The Role of Institutional Apologizing
Replies: 13
Views: 806

The Role of Institutional Apologizing

From another thread. This question was asked to SilentDawning, but I welcome any input. Silentdawning. Do you think that some blanket apologies from the LDS Q15 and/or newsroom would mend some of the harm, divide (pain, bitterness) with you personally. ..kind of like DHO did a couple of years ago wi...
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 13:15
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1932

Re: The role of apologizing

Ray DeGraw wrote:[Admin Note]: ..
(I edited my original wording to avoid having it taken literally, despite my use of the word "essentially". I should have been more careful in my...
Thank you. I appreciate it. It's not right to call me a troll, delete my comments and then misrepresent what it was i said.
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 13:01
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1932

Re: The role of apologizing

It completely makes sense from a retention viewpoint. In my experience, most TBM believe the church is perfect (just not the people, as the saying goes) so under that paradigm, why would the church ever need to issue an apology? If the church is perfect, it doesn't need to apologize. Also, recallin...
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 12:51
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1932

Re: The role of apologizing

Silentdawning. Do you think that some blanket apologies from the LDS Q15 and/or newsroom would mend some of the harm and divide with you personally. ..kind of like DHO did a couple of years ago with MMM?
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 12:03
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1932

Re: The role of apologizing

SilentDawning wrote:I do think it's worthy of discussion though, as it hits a nerve with me personally...
Thank you.
by cwald
11 Apr 2015, 12:01
Forum: Support
Topic: The role of apologizing
Replies: 51
Views: 1932

Re: The role of apologizing

university wrote:...the needs of the majority of devout Mormons over the rest being prioritized...
Wow. Yes. I think you are right. That says a lot IMO.