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by intothelight
24 Apr 2014, 23:41
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manipulated Obedience?
Replies: 17
Views: 595

Re: Manipulated Obedience?

I really appreciate everybody's thoughts. It helps a lot. I guess I feel like God put me in the church for a reason. Because perhaps He knew it would hurt like hell, and as much as I hate to say it, the things that hurt like that are usually really good for you. Not even Christ was able to learn wit...
by intothelight
24 Apr 2014, 00:01
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Manipulated Obedience?
Replies: 17
Views: 595

Manipulated Obedience?

Do you all think the church manipulates members by making them think the rules of the church are so important that they can't be good people unless they follow all of them? Is tying up a person's self worth in your approval of them the real force behind what makes members of the church do what they ...
by intothelight
23 Apr 2014, 23:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: For those who have served missions
Replies: 43
Views: 1323

Re: For those who have served missions

I think the only real problem with a mission is the tremendous pressure we place on children to go. A male child spends the first 18 or 19 years of their life being told that their level of goodness and being right with God is dependent on whether or not they serve a mission. I know, those aren't th...
by intothelight
21 Nov 2013, 01:01
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Do you suffer from anxiety or depression?
Replies: 23
Views: 873

Re: Do you suffer from anxiety or depression?

I don't think there is any person alive on earth that can say they never struggle with anxiety or depression. We all do - some more than others. Probably is more correct to say that some days are worse than others. I used to think that the church was the cause for a lot of my "problems". In reality,...
by intothelight
19 Nov 2013, 01:00
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?
Replies: 13
Views: 438

Re: Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?

I think I need to treat the church like I should treat a person. To think of them as a imperfect person who occasionally manipulates, is sometimes good, and other times not so good. Like me, they are not perfect. I tend to be harder on them, because I don't view them as a person. Certain, it's a bit...
by intothelight
18 Nov 2013, 01:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?
Replies: 13
Views: 438

Re: Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?

I suppose there really is no answer to this question - at least if by answer we mean a black and white solution. I guess I knew this even when I posed the question. Perhaps introduced the discussion would be more accurate. But I do like to get the perspective of other people, so all your answers are...
by intothelight
17 Nov 2013, 20:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?
Replies: 13
Views: 438

Does God Exempt Some Even Though Church Leaders Don't?

So my struggle with the church started when a bishop went too far in trying to get me to go on a mission. I somehow knew I couldn't go, and found out later I had a illness which will probably be terminal in the next few years. I'm sure he had the best of intentions. It's what he was taught to do. Bu...
by intothelight
28 Oct 2013, 00:10
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A young doc from Texas...
Replies: 10
Views: 916

Re: A young doc from Texas...

I have struggled with a very similar situation as well. It's amazing how many of us there are. Here is the conclusion I've come to. Might not be right for everyone, but it is right for me I think. I look at whether or not the church is the one true church as a "who cares" kind of issue. Sort of soun...