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by wayfarer
26 Nov 2011, 11:38
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: That sinking feeling and how to get rid of it
Replies: 4
Views: 492

Re: That sinking feeling and how to get rid of it

I have tried very hard during the effective and fully active periods in my life to live most good spiritual principles taught at Church. But based on the perfection thread Wayfarer started, I realize some give me a "sinking feeling" when I pursue them seriously. ... So, I wonder, what principles us...
by wayfarer
26 Nov 2011, 10:45
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: That sinking feeling and how to get rid of it
Replies: 4
Views: 492

Re: That sinking feeling and how to get rid of it

I avoid that sinking feeling by not letting others row my boat - and learning to row above the waves. I have no idea if I can explain what I mean by that last phrasing, but I really have learned over the course of my life to row above the waves. Mostly, it's just letting go of concern over whether ...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 20:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: More discussion on Temples, Women and a Rant
Replies: 27
Views: 1098

Re: More discussion on Temples, Women and a Rant

a couple quick points, in line with ray's comment above: 1. priesthood is really just heirarchy (it is what the word meant in greek). that heirarchy is a communication channel that supports you spiritually. however, each person's fundamental spiritual power comes from direct access to the divine, wh...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 17:17
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much should be shared with priesthood leaders?
Replies: 23
Views: 1094

Re: How much should be shared with priesthood leaders?

Salvation is not a church matter -- nothing the church can do will affect my salvation, because that is between me and the god of my understanding. I call BS. Yes, yes, Way, we get it. You and I and most folks here agree 100%. But, BUT, there is no way that our church agrees with this comment. No w...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 16:47
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Perfection
Replies: 5
Views: 344

Re: Perfection

I contend that that Matt 5:48 is perhaps the most misunderstood, and hence, the most pernicious and emotional and spiritual damaging verse and doctrine ever taught in the LDS church. the verse really means "be ye one", and as such, means something very important and consistent with some of the most...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 15:51
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much should be shared with priesthood leaders?
Replies: 23
Views: 1094

Re: How much should be shared with priesthood leaders?

BP: What about your salvation? I dunno, SD, looks like this is where the conversation took a left turn. Of course, I'm looking at this from the outside and with 20/20 hindsight vision, but it seems to me that the question about salvation was not exactly appropriate. I think less is more in these in...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 15:37
Forum: Support
Topic: SP says I cannot baptize my son
Replies: 43
Views: 1666

Re: SP says I cannot baptize my son

The sorry part of this kind of crap, is I should never have had to choose. jwald should never have had to make the choices in regards to her husband and church. And Strebor and his wife should not be put in this place where they have to make these choices in regards to faith and family. This is ecc...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 15:35
Forum: Support
Topic: SP says I cannot baptize my son
Replies: 43
Views: 1666

Re: SP says I cannot baptize my son

cwald wrote:SD, I just spewed coffee all over the counter. I get what you are saying but you may want to change some of your wordage. ;)
:lol: careful, you might be thought to have a :evil: mind...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 15:31
Forum: Support
Topic: Discretion is the better part of NOMness
Replies: 18
Views: 597

Re: Discretion is the better part of NOMness

... I feel that blatant falsehood and harmful teachings ought to be challenged, albeit gracefully, when pushed at me. To me, it's a moral imperative to fight against tyranny over the mind, to quote Jefferson. But more and more, I feel that people don't care, and resent having their perception of ch...
by wayfarer
25 Nov 2011, 15:18
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Perfection
Replies: 5
Views: 344

Perfection

from Spencer W. Kimball, "Miracle of Forgiveness", page 209: This progress toward eternal life is a matter of achieving perfection. Living all the commandments guarantees total forgiveness of sins and assures one of exaltation through that perfection which comes by complying with the formula the Lor...