Search found 1390 matches

by DevilsAdvocate
22 Dec 2018, 09:52
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we really that different?
Replies: 22
Views: 2440

Are we really that different?

I don't want to derail the other thread because this is a completely separate topic but I wanted to respond to the following post and some other comments along these lines. Satisfied people want change they can understand and that doesn't shock or anger them. When that sort of change happens, satisf...
by DevilsAdvocate
16 Dec 2018, 16:53
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 59
Views: 5232

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

We're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one DA. I seriously doubt any mass exodus or increase in faith crises over these things. People who have shelves are gonna have shelves and people whose shelves are gonna fall will fall. I never said or intentionally implied that there would be ...
by DevilsAdvocate
15 Dec 2018, 16:59
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 59
Views: 5232

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

"If I was a TBM, I wouldn't think or react like a TBM." DId I get it right this time? :lol: :thumbup: :twisted: No, and to be honest I don't see what is so funny about it; I think this comes across as flippant. I get that I am obviously not a TBM now but that doesn't mean that I don't remember what...
by DevilsAdvocate
15 Dec 2018, 11:16
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 59
Views: 5232

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

Idon't know DA. My TBM friends and associates (as well as those I try to avoid) seem to mostly be on board with everything that's happening, maybe if only because of "follow the prophet." Sure, it seems like there will always be some TBMs like that that will typically follow the prophet no matter w...
by DevilsAdvocate
15 Dec 2018, 10:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 59
Views: 5232

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

"If I were still a TBM" you would be rejoicing at the outpouring of revelatory change. That kind of is the definition of term. Maybe for one or two changes if I happened to like those changes, but not one after another like this including some that seem rather petty and/or pointless. For example, I...
by DevilsAdvocate
15 Dec 2018, 10:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 59
Views: 5232

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

Personally I'm glad to see that President Nelson is apparently not afraid to change things around left and right. But it does beg the question that if some of these changes were such a great idea then why did it take so long for them to be made especially when the Church literally claims to be led b...
by DevilsAdvocate
09 Oct 2018, 20:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: PR Misdirection
Replies: 9
Views: 1047

Re: PR Misdirection

One area that continues to frustrate me is the reasons given for policy changes in the church almost always feel like a snow job or shell game...From the discontinuation of Janitors, the discontinuation of non-geographical student wards, the age change for missionaries, the POX, to the corrected na...
by DevilsAdvocate
04 Oct 2018, 07:35
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference
Replies: 80
Views: 7259

Re: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference

[Also...just as an admin note...for the etiquette on the board...should there be changes we like or don't like, or not enough changes...let's keep comments constructive to our thoughts and how we process them, and not personal attacks to President Nelson directly, lest we lose a level of respect ev...
by DevilsAdvocate
02 Oct 2018, 07:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference
Replies: 80
Views: 7259

Re: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference

So this post isn't just me complaining, here's another rumor that I'll start. Relaxing WoW requirements. I got to thinking (dangerous), during the mission years I taught a lot of people that would have been baptized if not for a coffee or smoking habit. I wonder whether the church would relax WoW r...
by DevilsAdvocate
02 Oct 2018, 07:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference
Replies: 80
Views: 7259

Re: Supposed Blizzard of Changes coming at General Conference

It actually wouldn't surprise me if Nelson rolled out some new policy changes and/or "revelations" that would be especially hard for many Church members to accept. Just look at what he has already done so far. This is the same guy that publicly doubled down on the November policy, abandoned scouts,...