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by Bruce in Montana
20 Dec 2012, 07:54
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: What was Christ really like?
Replies: 17
Views: 1419

Re: What was Christ really like?

I guess I see "sinless" and "guilty" as polar opposites. IMO you can't be both. I could be incorrect. I don't think asking HF why he'd forsaken him was imperfect at all. It simply appeared to him briefly that he had. Little is known of his mortal life and what is written in the gospels was written b...
by Bruce in Montana
19 Dec 2012, 18:57
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Sustaining the Church Leaders as Prophets, and etc.
Replies: 47
Views: 2906

Re: Sustaining the Church Leaders as Prophets, and etc.

I've always felt that God calls prophets and church members call leaders (church presidents included). If the early church had voted to not sustain JS as prophet, I don't think God would have realized some mistake on his part and picked someone else. I guess I would honestly research what a Prophet ...
by Bruce in Montana
17 Dec 2012, 21:20
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: The Elementary School Shooting Today
Replies: 28
Views: 1957

Re: The Elementary School Shooting Today

Sorry the discussion didn't go the way "you wanted it" Ray. Maybe everyone isn't up to your level of spiritual understanding. Well, Jacob speaks several times of "comfort". How is one to "comfort"? "Healing the sick" is mentioned but I don't suppose we should ask for that either. Unicorns and sunshi...
by Bruce in Montana
17 Dec 2012, 18:10
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: The Elementary School Shooting Today
Replies: 28
Views: 1957

Re: The Elementary School Shooting Today

Surely not Sam, according to the government...it was the lack of gun control and China has plenty of that. Many are wondering if this god of miracles and god of healing couldn't have prevented this. Some say he could, but chose not to. If that's the case, what is the point of praying for someone? Su...
by Bruce in Montana
15 Dec 2012, 11:31
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: The Elementary School Shooting Today
Replies: 28
Views: 1957

Re: The Elementary School Shooting Today

Thanks for that Ray. Excellent article.
by Bruce in Montana
15 Dec 2012, 10:57
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: The Elementary School Shooting Today
Replies: 28
Views: 1957

Re: The Elementary School Shooting Today

So where was our loving God yesterday? Was he a no-show? What kind of a monster can go into a kindergarden classroom and start shooting crying little kids? What are we going to do as a society? Stricter gun laws aren't working (CT has some of the strictest). Locked doors on schools isn't working. (H...
by Bruce in Montana
08 Dec 2012, 23:56
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Good Article in Defense of BoA
Replies: 39
Views: 3729

Re: Good Article in Defense of BoA

Good discussion. I am weary of the years trying to convince myself that somewhere in an ordinary funerary document, there was a writing by Abraham that, doggonit...somehow got lost. After that didn't work, it was trying to convince myself that it was just a catalyst that was somehow needed to bring ...
by Bruce in Montana
25 Nov 2012, 15:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hey....never thought I would see this
Replies: 19
Views: 1153

Re: Hey....never thought I would see this

I would hope this would go over well in Utah with their reported anti-depressant drug issues. As noted above, AA, NA, etc do focus on honesty and self-examination. The original 12-step program was popularized by a hopeless drunk stockbroker and a washed-up alcoholic doctor. It helps pretty much anyo...
by Bruce in Montana
07 Nov 2012, 22:04
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Do I need the Church?
Replies: 16
Views: 1310

Re: Do I need the Church?

Well, I certainly need the church, my wife needs the church, and our granddaughter needs the church. But I don't attend....and I won't attend. Maybe someday the church will come clean on it's history...but I doubt it. It seems that everyone that explores it honestly ends up leaving out of disgust. A...
by Bruce in Montana
12 Sep 2012, 06:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What's the difference between NOM and StayLDS?
Replies: 57
Views: 4788

Re: What's the difference between NOM and StayLDS?

Gosh.... I just want to know the truth. And the truth is not relative. God is, or he isn't. If my search leads me closer to the corporate church or mormonism in general...great.....if it becomes apparent that things are false....great. What I'm not interested in is apologies, cover-ups, and ignoring...