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by hawkgrrrl
17 Aug 2018, 16:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual
Replies: 11
Views: 175

Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual

https://wheatandtares.org/2018/08/16/for-seminary-students-exclusion-policy-is-model-of-modern-revelation/ Yikes! Nelson doubling down on his implausible story about the PoX being revelation that has already been taken out of print once before, but is now incorporated into this year's seminary curri...
by hawkgrrrl
10 Aug 2018, 16:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: YW and free babysitting
Replies: 11
Views: 211

Re: YW and free babysitting

Back to the "women are more nurturing" business that leads them into fields that are routinely undercompensated financially--that's social conditioning. Nobody's suggesting that men be asked to breastfeed or give birth. Once you set those two things aside, the biological differences are a matter of ...
by hawkgrrrl
10 Aug 2018, 16:30
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Harm vs. Purity
Replies: 13
Views: 303

Harm vs. Purity

I did this post on BCC this week, thinking about the false equivalency in the story about the girl assaulted at BYU-I who was drinking. Her attacker outed her to her bishop for drinking, and she was suspended for two semesters. (The school has amnesty for victims, and the school acted appropriately ...
by hawkgrrrl
10 Aug 2018, 16:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Testimony (?) of Modesty
Replies: 19
Views: 419

Re: A Testimony (?) of Modesty

I turned this discussion into a post on W&T: https://wheatandtares.org/2018/08/07/a-testimony-of-modesty/ There was a spot on comment from Damascene that bears repeating. Women are being taught that anything in words or deeds that draws attention to oneself is immodest. When those talks are analyzed...
by hawkgrrrl
07 Aug 2018, 19:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Testimony (?) of Modesty
Replies: 19
Views: 419

Re: A Testimony (?) of Modesty

mom3: that sounds a lot like my ward friends (and me!). It's in the 110s here, and it's completely nuts to be covering up to the extent we are expected to.
by hawkgrrrl
06 Aug 2018, 14:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 28
Views: 954

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

I agree with Curtis. Bill's changed a lot over time. I wish him the best, but he has become quite antagonistic. This is a one way path.
by hawkgrrrl
06 Aug 2018, 14:35
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Testimony (?) of Modesty
Replies: 19
Views: 419

A Testimony (?) of Modesty

Several months ago, a woman in RS talked about her daughter's prom dress not being something you could wear with garments, and that her daughter hadn't yet gained a "testimony of modesty," which is something that she said most women don't get until they are older. That concept has been stuck in my c...
by hawkgrrrl
31 Jul 2018, 10:04
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: TR Interview Grilling
Replies: 24
Views: 583

Re: TR Interview Grilling

I know of two people who very successfully pushed back in specific situations, so I'll share. One is my mother. She was asked if they played with face cards or had them in the home. She said, "We do, but you aren't allowed to ask that as part of the temple recommend interview." He said that "technic...
by hawkgrrrl
30 Jul 2018, 11:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 57
Views: 1493

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

A thought that has occurred to me is that so much of the orthodoxy policing in church is because members see it as their responsibility to be PR for the church, that every member is always an example of the church to non-members, that all we do is not a reflection of self, but of the collective memb...