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by Ray DeGraw
24 Jun 2017, 17:06
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Strolling Toward Church
Replies: 8
Views: 106

Re: Strolling Toward Church

Thanks for the update, DC.

You last comment resonated within me. Well said.
by Ray DeGraw
24 Jun 2017, 13:44
Forum: Support
Topic: Members Can Support Gay Marrriage: Elder Christofferson
Replies: 3
Views: 89

Re: Members Can Support Gay Marrriage: Elder Christofferson

I linked the wrong article, and I can't find the link yet to the article I saw saying Elder Christofferson had repeated his earlier statement, so I changed the original focus of the post. If I find the other link, and if it is legit, I will post it. Otherwise, I will leave the original linked articl...
by Ray DeGraw
24 Jun 2017, 12:47
Forum: Support
Topic: Settlers and Explorers
Replies: 0
Views: 31

Settlers and Explorers

It just hit me, hard, that I should search for all the times over the last nine years I have been here at StayLDS that I have referenced the idea of there being settlers and explorers in the LDS Church - and the unavoidable tension that creates. I hope that impression was inspired and that someone w...
by Ray DeGraw
24 Jun 2017, 11:44
Forum: Support
Topic: Members Can Support Gay Marrriage: Elder Christofferson
Replies: 3
Views: 89

Members Can Support Gay Marrriage: Elder Christofferson

Elder Christofferson said in 2015 that members can support gay marriage without facing church discipline, on social media or by participating in Gay Pride Parades or in any other way, as long as they are not attacking the LDS Church or trying to pull people away from it. Given the recent brewhaha ov...
by Ray DeGraw
24 Jun 2017, 11:40
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 48
Views: 675

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

Elder Christofferson said officially in 2015 that members can support gay marriage, including on social media and marching in Gay Pride parades, as long as they are not actively attacking the LDS Church and trying to pull people away from membership. Based on that, nothing should have been done by t...
by Ray DeGraw
23 Jun 2017, 16:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The culture of marriage
Replies: 10
Views: 140

Re: The culture of marriage

I did some research into marriage ages inside and outside the LDS Church a few years ago when the question was asked. The differences aren't surprising, but a few things might be to many here. To the best of my memory: 1) The average first-time marriage ages for male and female, active Mormons (in t...
by Ray DeGraw
21 Jun 2017, 20:03
Forum: Support
Topic: Quick update on another meeting with SP
Replies: 40
Views: 472

Re: Quick update on another meeting with SP

Regarding a verbal suggestion?

No.
by Ray DeGraw
21 Jun 2017, 20:02
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Fanny Alger, First Plural Wife?
Replies: 13
Views: 237

Re: Fanny Alger, First Plural Wife?

I believe it wasn't a marriage. I think it was an extra-marital affair. I don't believe polygamy was a cover for the affair. I think Joseph saw prophetic polygamy in the Bible and believed in "restoring" all things that seemed reasonable to him. I think it seemed reasonable to him - but that was aft...
by Ray DeGraw
21 Jun 2017, 11:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Transitioning into adulthood
Replies: 12
Views: 523

Re: Transitioning into adulthood

Thank you for the update. I am glad you have found peace and a good, supportive spouse.
by Ray DeGraw
21 Jun 2017, 11:21
Forum: Support
Topic: new website to build bridges
Replies: 8
Views: 193

Re: new website to build bridges

I think your intent is noble, Bill - because I know you and your heart. I think most traditional members would have a visceral, negative reaction to the home page, as been been stated by others. That first impression is of someone only highlighting negatives - and a couple of the claims are not as c...