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by Curt Sunshine
20 Sep 2018, 12:02
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 52
Views: 957

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

The early church was extremely volatile. That might be an understatement.

Just saying. :smile:
by Curt Sunshine
20 Sep 2018, 11:59
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"
Replies: 18
Views: 333

Re: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"

I feel for the author. I do NOT want to be critical. I want to understand and validate. I will do that as much as possible. However . . . What On Own Now said. To use Fowler's Stages of Faith, I see someone who exchanged one black-and-white view for the opposite black-and-white view. I don't see "gr...
by Curt Sunshine
20 Sep 2018, 11:47
Forum: Support
Topic: An Update About My Faith
Replies: 10
Views: 210

Re: An Update About My Faith

I am glad to read this update.

No concrete suggestions about your final question. Just, "Do what you feel you can." That is enough.
by Curt Sunshine
20 Sep 2018, 11:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 52
Views: 957

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

In the end, he got what he wanted - which was NOT to stay and try to continue to help make more changes. He wanted the whole enchilada or a complete break. That is his right, and I won't condemn him for it. It isn't what I want, however. I want the movement to keep going, so I do what I can to stay ...
by Curt Sunshine
15 Sep 2018, 15:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 698

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

Let's make sure we focus on helping Shawn and responding to his post. I didn't mean to detract from Shawn or Jospeh. I apologize for doing so.
by Curt Sunshine
15 Sep 2018, 15:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 52
Views: 957

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

That alone shows grandstanding. It saddens me, since I see it as a radical departure from how he started. At this point, it reeks to me of "to be seen of men".

It truly does sadden me.
by Curt Sunshine
15 Sep 2018, 15:13
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report
Replies: 18
Views: 300

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report

Interesting. Thanks for the insight.
by Curt Sunshine
13 Sep 2018, 22:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 698

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

Dande48 said what I would have said about the whole "prophets" and Jesus issue. I simply will summarize by saying that looking st him without the lens of believing faith is a radically different view than with those particular glasses. I have no intellectual clue if the historical Jesus of Nazareth ...
by Curt Sunshine
12 Sep 2018, 14:03
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 35
Views: 749

Re: YSA Fireside

I have six kids, 16-30. Three of them are classic, heterodox believers on their own terms; one is completely inactive but totally chill and not opposed in any way; one is traditionally believing with elements of personal disagreement; one has unique beliefs and a schedule that creates a Sunday atten...