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by Ray DeGraw
22 Aug 2017, 12:15
Forum: Support
Topic: How forward should I be about my disbelief in dating?
Replies: 6
Views: 80

Re: How forward should I be about my disbelief in dating?

I think you are doing it the right way, but I probably would change my explanation a bit: "I am an active but heterodox Mormon. I believe some things just like most members, and I believe some things differently." I think details are good for people who want to hear them, particularly if you aren't ...
by Ray DeGraw
22 Aug 2017, 12:06
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Always thankful and SO confused . . . .
Replies: 5
Views: 41

Re: Always thankful and SO confused . . . .

Welcome to our Island of Misfit Toys. I am glad you found us and hope we can help each other.
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 19:24
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?
Replies: 20
Views: 237

Re: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?

The orthodox, Christian God's desire is what we describe as Lucifer's plan: "Praise me! Give me glory! Tell me how great I am!" The Mormon God says, "This is my work and my glory, to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man." If you are interested, I wrote the following in 2010: " Belie...
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 13:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Logical argument for male-exclusive Priesthood authority
Replies: 11
Views: 129

Re: Logical argument for male-exclusive Priesthood authority

Sexist men won the ancient battle to run the ecclesiastical show, and their successors assumed it was God's will.

Totally logical and, I think, true.
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 13:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?
Replies: 20
Views: 237

Re: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?

I define becoming like God as becoming my absolute best self - and that is the best reward I can imagine, in this life or eternally. Love your musings, nibbler. Kind of like losing in order to gain - or, perhaps, gaining as a result of losing, as long as the gaining was not intended for self-gratifi...
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 11:21
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?
Replies: 20
Views: 237

Re: To Be Seen for the Honors of Men? Lost reward?

To be like him - at least, that is what is stated in the passages from which the quote is taken.

If that is the reward, it is interesting to contemplate what that says about how God "gives his alms".
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 11:18
Forum: Support
Topic: Useful quote of the day...
Replies: 472
Views: 27907

Re: Useful quote of the day...

I screamed at God for the starving child until I saw that the starving child was God screaming at me.
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 07:25
Forum: Support
Topic: Honesty
Replies: 13
Views: 157

Re: Honesty

"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." You are part of "we", "our", and "all men". Hold onto THAT iron rod, since I believe strongly it is the word of G...
by Ray DeGraw
21 Aug 2017, 07:11
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Seeing some choose to not to go to church
Replies: 2
Views: 61

Re: Seeing some choose to not to go to church

I love that statement in our Articles of Faith. I think ot is a wonderful summary of the concept of grace that gets overlooked too much.
by Ray DeGraw
20 Aug 2017, 17:28
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: What I thought was inspiration probably isn't...
Replies: 20
Views: 318

Re: What I thought was inspiration probably isn't...

"You know what really ticks me off? When people do not walk around praising me all the time and doing exactly what I say!"


Lucifer's plan in a nutshell. Just saying.

Also: A) God is perfect. B) He makes nothing but good choices. A+B=C) God does not play the accordion.