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by Rumin8
19 Aug 2019, 14:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 27
Views: 762

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

Our Sacrament Meeting today was about "not judging" this clarification was on my mind the whole time. Because, yes we will use it to judge others. That is our product - Judging. We have a list and expect all team members to comply. This was our topic too. It was GLORIOUS. Best HC talk I've heard in...
by Rumin8
18 Aug 2019, 13:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 27
Views: 762

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

This makes me sad, and reiterates the to me the premise of this thread. In business terms, this is our product. I can’t count how many mainstream news articles I saw that linked to the “clarification.” Where once I saw hope for a loosening of the standard, or at least a push towards more self determ...
by Rumin8
15 Aug 2019, 09:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 27
Views: 762

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church recognizes the autonomy of each individual and his or her God-given power of choice. Rather than mandating standards of behavior, Adventists call upon one another to live as positive examples of God’s love and care. Part of that example includes taking care of our ...
by Rumin8
22 Jul 2019, 12:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: End of Duty to God, Personal Progress, Faith In God
Replies: 19
Views: 542

Re: End of Duty to God, Personal Progress, Faith In God

I'm trying to keep an open mind. That said, I agree with others who have verbalized being worried about it being more indoctrination. Our stake, like many others, just completed a Pioneer Trek. I am not a fan, but my wife is. As in many things, I support her in this. I had two of my kids attend. It ...
by Rumin8
22 Jul 2019, 12:24
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Church considering lowering age for youth interviews to 8
Replies: 26
Views: 787

Re: Church considering lowering age for youth interviews to 8

This would be a terrible, terrible idea. As with other things, let's keep this in the home. That's where it belongs. Not with a random, untrained, but generally well-intentioned male neighbor. I never once have shared a worthiness issue with a member of our clergy. I have done a disservice to my chi...
by Rumin8
22 Jul 2019, 12:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 27
Views: 762

Are we the church of the WoW?

Full disclosure: I do not keep the word of wisdom as it is interpreted currently in the church. I do not hold a temple recommend. I attend church each week and have a calling. On to my question/comment. Recently I have been attending a lot of different wards as I have been participating in the missi...
by Rumin8
11 Jul 2019, 16:35
Forum: Support
Topic: How I came back
Replies: 18
Views: 668

Re: How I came back

This is fascinating. I'm in a very similar place as LookingHard (if not a bit more "out") and I also don't understand what changed for Rebel2, but I respect the heck out of anyone who can make this work at any level. Whether that means all in, mostly out, or anything in between. So to you, Rebel2, m...
by Rumin8
04 Jul 2019, 14:25
Forum: Support
Topic: I need to come clean
Replies: 21
Views: 832

Re: I need to come clean

Just wanted to check in and say from one struggling ward clerk to another, I salute you. Hang in there!
by Rumin8
28 May 2019, 19:26
Forum: Support
Topic: Struggling with a calling
Replies: 20
Views: 703

Re: Struggling with a calling

This is a tough one. I totally get your concerns and fears. From an optimistic point of view, perhaps this will put him in close proximity to others that may be struggling too. Due to his support of you, he could be a valuable empathetic resource to others, and this may in fact increase his empathy ...
by Rumin8
09 May 2019, 18:59
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: More than enough
Replies: 25
Views: 829

Re: More than enough

I forgot about the meager ward budgets. I am a bad ward clerk. Add that to my list of “begrudges.”