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by Rumin8
09 Oct 2019, 11:30
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.
Replies: 50
Views: 2931

Re: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.

On the downside, the counselor who chooses the hymns has very different musical taste to me. Some LDS hymn I love are never sung, and some of the ones I hate get sung regularly. As a BP, we just discussed pulling our music director aside with instructions to "keep it to the hits" with hymn selectio...
by Rumin8
30 Sep 2019, 11:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.
Replies: 50
Views: 2931

Re: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.

Rumin, what kinds of achievements would be noted from the pulpit? Just curious. The obvious ones are mission calls. We also recognize (mainly youth) members for achievements in school (excelling at sports or academics), etc. This does cause some heartburn from some parents whose kids were not recog...
by Rumin8
24 Sep 2019, 13:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.
Replies: 50
Views: 2931

Re: I hope Sacrament Meetings get better.

Interesting how this is different in different wards. For example, when we have members of the SP visit, they observe and "preside" but never speak. We always have a musical number between speakers. Usually the format is: Youth Speaker, Adult speaker 1, Music, Adult speaker 2. We talk in BP about be...
by Rumin8
24 Sep 2019, 13:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 9/17 Nelson Devotional
Replies: 20
Views: 1147

Re: 9/17 Nelson Devotional

I think the most disheartening part for me was that it seemed every time he said something I liked, he immediately qualified with something I didn't necessarily agree with. [The following are not actual quotes - not what he said, but what I heard] "We are all literal sons and daughters of God!" :th...
by Rumin8
05 Sep 2019, 11:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Could it be . . . Satan?
Replies: 7
Views: 481

Re: Could it be . . . Satan?

So, upfront, part of my faith deconstruction involved abandoning the idea of a literal Satan. I see the idea as an archetype of human evil, but do not believe in a literal devil (I think that humans can be evil enough on their own without having Satan tempt us). I did the same during my deconstruct...
by Rumin8
05 Sep 2019, 11:04
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 37
Views: 2772

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

I wish God would speak up on this issue. I think the leaders don't hear anything, so they just let an old rule stay as it is. While it would be nice if the church spoke up clearly and reasonably, I have come to the conclusion that God doesn't care about stuff like this. God has bigger problems. My ...
by Rumin8
19 Aug 2019, 14:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 37
Views: 2772

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

Our Sacrament Meeting today was about "not judging" this clarification was on my mind the whole time. Because, yes we will use it to judge others. That is our product - Judging. We have a list and expect all team members to comply. This was our topic too. It was GLORIOUS. Best HC talk I've heard in...
by Rumin8
18 Aug 2019, 13:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 37
Views: 2772

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

This makes me sad, and reiterates the to me the premise of this thread. In business terms, this is our product. I can’t count how many mainstream news articles I saw that linked to the “clarification.” Where once I saw hope for a loosening of the standard, or at least a push towards more self determ...
by Rumin8
15 Aug 2019, 09:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we the church of the WoW?
Replies: 37
Views: 2772

Re: Are we the church of the WoW?

"The Seventh-day Adventist Church recognizes the autonomy of each individual and his or her God-given power of choice. Rather than mandating standards of behavior, Adventists call upon one another to live as positive examples of God’s love and care. Part of that example includes taking care of our ...
by Rumin8
22 Jul 2019, 12:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: End of Duty to God, Personal Progress, Faith In God
Replies: 19
Views: 947

Re: End of Duty to God, Personal Progress, Faith In God

I'm trying to keep an open mind. That said, I agree with others who have verbalized being worried about it being more indoctrination. Our stake, like many others, just completed a Pioneer Trek. I am not a fan, but my wife is. As in many things, I support her in this. I had two of my kids attend. It ...