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by Beefster
20 Apr 2018, 22:28
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?
Replies: 36
Views: 1612

Re: Do You Believe in the Literal Christ?

Well Jesus was an actual person. And he's of exemplary character. If there is a need for a Savior, it would be him.
by Beefster
20 Apr 2018, 07:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Gerontocracy versus Terms?
Replies: 18
Views: 323

Re: Gerontocracy versus Terms?

All systems have problems. Once an organization reaches a certain size, it becomes corporatized and bureaucratic. Human nature just isn't well equipped to handle groups larger than about 1500 people. It's why local LDS leadership generally works pretty well but is a trainwreck at the higher levels. ...
by Beefster
19 Apr 2018, 08:07
Forum: Support
Topic: Best Way to Convince Spouse of Tithing Surplus
Replies: 11
Views: 235

Re: Best Way to Convince Spouse of Tithing Surplus

I want to give my 5% to Doctors Without Borders." DWB/MSF is a fantastic charity. I plan on giving my "tithing" to them during SGDQ this year. (SGDQ is a gaming marathon where they play through games as fast as possible and raise money for charity) It will do at least 100x as much good as my tithin...
by Beefster
17 Apr 2018, 19:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson in Africa
Replies: 42
Views: 714

Re: Nelson in Africa

I don't mind paying tithing, even living solely on Social Security Disability, but I do think it's wrong when it's taught that people should pay tithing, even when people have to choose between paying it or paying for necessities. That is irresponsible. I would hope Heavenly Father, Jesus Christ, t...
by Beefster
17 Apr 2018, 16:04
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson in Africa
Replies: 42
Views: 714

Re: Nelson in Africa

^ that I think good points have been made about the ending of dowries and I totally agree. I just don't like it when tithing is presented as a financial panacea. It isn't. To suggest that it is tithing that brings people out of poverty is not something I see empirical evidence to support. The faith-...
by Beefster
17 Apr 2018, 07:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson in Africa
Replies: 42
Views: 714

Re: Nelson in Africa

I think that sort of preaching is disgusting and it is scripturally condemned. It is the essence of the Order of Nehors in the BoM.
by Beefster
17 Apr 2018, 07:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson in Africa
Replies: 42
Views: 714

Re: Nelson in Africa

I'm not going to water this down: Nelson is teaching BS and I am apalled. Tithing does not break the cycle of poverty and the only reason you might think it does is a result of confirmation bias. When you really get down to the nitty gritty, the faith-promoting stories are either riddled with magica...
by Beefster
16 Apr 2018, 22:18
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Hypothesis: Purely Intellectual Faith Crises aren't crises
Replies: 10
Views: 232

Hypothesis: Purely Intellectual Faith Crises aren't crises

When contradictory evidence finds its way into the minds of a believer, it usually does not come with an emotional weight to it, and thus it blows over with a little time or is satisfied by a visit to FAIRLDS or FARMS. Doubts come and go if you still "feel it." The "weight" of an item on one's shelf...
by Beefster
16 Apr 2018, 07:26
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Looking for like-hearted friends
Replies: 14
Views: 293

Re: Looking for like-hearted friends

When my gay married coworker came out to me, I realized I could no longer stand by the church on the issue. Not long after (maybe it was before? I don't remember), Josh Weed's divorce was my tipping point when I decided that the church was 100% wrong about gay people and was wrong all those years lo...
by Beefster
15 Apr 2018, 13:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Was I really like that? Yes.
Replies: 17
Views: 368

Re: Was I really like that? Yes.

I can tell you that when I first found out that NOMs were a thing, I couldn't quite wrap my mind around the idea of someone who didn't believe but stayed active anyway. Now I'm a lot more empathetic to it, especially when it comes to mixed-faith marriages- something that tends to happen more often t...