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by Reuben
13 Dec 2018, 22:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 76
Views: 4072

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

I think Curt's argument for Bill's wrongdoing goes like this. The outcome was going to be excommunication. Bill would make sure it was. So he had a few choices: 1. Don't sign, don't attend, and be excommunicated. 2. Sign, attend, don't record, and be excommunicated. 3. Sign, attend, record, and be e...
by Reuben
10 Dec 2018, 16:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 22
Views: 367

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

I simply will say individual experiences and perspectives can be very different. In that light, I will say that I have heard Elder Holland preach reconciliation by leaders on more than one occasion. If I made a list of the current top leadership and the likelihood of each individual giving such a t...
by Reuben
10 Dec 2018, 12:03
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 22
Views: 367

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

I think of both forgiving and reconciling as ideally involving both parties. Forgiving can in principle always be done by one party without the other, but can be really hard in practice, and maybe should be delayed sometimes. (If it would make you let your guard down around a predator, then get some...
by Reuben
09 Dec 2018, 19:19
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 22
Views: 367

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

The church never reconciles with anyone. It waits for them to do it, presumably on its terms. If they don't, they're in the wrong. Trust is a bundle of expectations. It usually goes like this: I trust you because I expect (based on experience, a good recommendation, etc.) that you'll deal honestly w...
by Reuben
18 Nov 2018, 19:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: I'm going to jail!
Replies: 15
Views: 636

Re: I'm going to jail!

Awesome!

I think the people you'll serve will need your left-wing heresies. You can teach them about a radically inclusive and forgiving Jesus without having to struggle to find him first.
by Reuben
14 Nov 2018, 01:43
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: End of World War I
Replies: 14
Views: 469

Re: End of World War I

:shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
by Reuben
12 Nov 2018, 20:06
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: End of World War I
Replies: 14
Views: 469

Re: End of World War I

Welp, time to partly dox myself. Our ward here in the UK rescheduled its meetings four hours later so members could attend Remembrance Day services elsewhere. It's a huge, huge deal here. My family tuned in to the BBC and watched the service at the Cenotaph in London, which DD2 said she liked a lot,...
by Reuben
06 Nov 2018, 11:03
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Healthier Approach to the Porn Dilemma
Replies: 21
Views: 846

Re: A Healthier Approach to the Porn Dilemma

For those interested in apostolic backup, there was this from Elder Ballard in November of 2017: Too many men and women suffer in silence because we have unintentionally demonized those who are addicted to pornography. Parents, family members, and friends can do much more to help those in trouble by...
by Reuben
02 Nov 2018, 15:30
Forum: Support
Topic: I can’t believe in anything anymore
Replies: 16
Views: 718

Re: I can’t believe in anything anymore

Have others felt this way? Are some still in this space? Is there value in believing in the supernatural without good evidence for it, other than emotional/spiritual experiences? Should I strive to exit this space just because others like Richard Rohr say I should? Nine levels! Wow! Here's my hot t...
by Reuben
02 Nov 2018, 07:28
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Oaks vs. Rob Bell
Replies: 8
Views: 410

Re: Elder Oaks vs. Rob Bell

I only want to point out that Elder Oaks' view of the Prodigal Son and the "faithful son" is consistent with a strict reading of the actual wording of the parable. The father celebrated his younger son and his return, but he said nothing about giving him a second inheritance. He also said nothing a...