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by Reuben
15 Sep 2018, 18:25
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 33
Views: 653

Re: YSA Fireside

I applaud the increased transparency and honesty. I had three predictions for the event, all of which came true. 1. The church is pushing "Saints." 2. There still isn't the barest hint of reconciling with anyone who discovered what's now in "Saints" and lost belief, trust, friends and family over it...
by Reuben
05 Sep 2018, 01:03
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Faith Crisis? Trust Crisis? or Both?
Replies: 41
Views: 643

Re: Faith Crisis? Trust Crisis? or Both?

That's awesome, mom3. And I love that Primary song. It's become one of my favorites. I also see movement. I think a lot of members, including leaders, realize that "because God said so" isn't enough of a basis for trust. It has to be backed up with honesty and treating people with dignity. We wouldn...
by Reuben
03 Sep 2018, 18:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Faith Crisis? Trust Crisis? or Both?
Replies: 41
Views: 643

Re: Faith Crisis? Trust Crisis? or Both?

Love the discussion. My take is an attempt at generalizing the hundreds of exit stories I've read. Almost everyone who has a faith crisis loses trust in the Church and its leaders. It usually doesn't take very long if it's not immediate. In the Church, trust in leaders is founded on belief in their ...
by Reuben
20 Aug 2018, 17:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual
Replies: 20
Views: 556

Re: Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual

They're trying to make the POX unquestionable by promoting it to "revelation" status. This probably won't work on the youth because too many of them are too compassionate. It might work on my generation and older, though. I'm keeping an ear out during October GC. The thing that worries me is the rec...
by Reuben
13 Aug 2018, 19:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Harm vs. Purity
Replies: 13
Views: 390

Re: Harm vs. Purity

I've finally got a good analogy for how I see purity-based moral reasoning. My youngest daughter has turned into something of a germaphobe, to the level of mild OCD. She engages in ritual hand-washing. She invents rules about things touching other things to keep herself safe. Most of her contagion r...
by Reuben
12 Aug 2018, 10:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Harm vs. Purity
Replies: 13
Views: 390

Re: Harm vs. Purity

I loved this article. I hadn't thought of framing the issue this way. I think it's often necessary to judge the wrongness of an act by some standard of purity. An obvious example is Typhoid Mary. Less obvious examples have nothing to do with health. Here's one most people don't think of: in writing ...
by Reuben
10 Aug 2018, 01:24
Forum: Support
Topic: Hard Sayings and Safe Spaces: Amazing BYU Devotional
Replies: 15
Views: 446

Re: Hard Sayings and Safe Spaces: Amazing BYU Devotional

Bro Huntsman specifically pointed out, he wasn't referring to "safe spaces" in the way it is commonly used in society. He meant it in "creating environments that are, on the one hand, places of faith where we can seek and nurture testimony, but are also, on the other, places where our sisters and b...
by Reuben
31 Jul 2018, 02:09
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The Prosperity Gospel
Replies: 52
Views: 1705

Re: The Prosperity Gospel

I thought this was an interesting article about how the Vatican feels about the US-centric "prosperity gospel" beliefs... Vatican-OK'd journal dissing 'prosperity gospel', US evangelicals Bleah. The site sltrib.com isn't compliant with new EU privacy regulations, so it refuses to serve up content o...
by Reuben
28 Jul 2018, 09:40
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 28
Views: 1118

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

Bill put himself in that position. Whether he wants to admit it or not. Every other infamous excommunication has happened the same way. Bill has changed. He is angry, tyrannical, reactionary. Maybe it's not SLC who is complaining as much as members complaining. I remember one time someone stating t...
by Reuben
28 Jul 2018, 07:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Better to be Happy in Ignorance or Miserable in the Truth?
Replies: 19
Views: 644

Re: Better to be Happy in Ignorance or Miserable in the Truth?

Generally speaking, it is better to be happy than to be miserable - so I find ways to be happy that are as harmless to others as possible. If me being totally happy makes others I love more miserable, I sacrifice a degree of that ideal happy to create a more equal happiness for my loved ones. It he...