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by ydeve
20 Jun 2017, 14:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

How would you handle the aftermath? Would you meet with the 12 year old who spoke and their parents? What about the future? If these people are members of the Ward, what might you do afterwards, if anything? I don't think that anything a local leader can do will have any long-term effect on whether...
by ydeve
20 Jun 2017, 13:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

If you were presiding over the meeting in which this happened, how would you have responded? I'd follow my conscience, praise her for her courage, and probably be released rather quickly. I'm very mentally out and have no respect for people or policies that treat me as subhuman/sub-child-of-god. Ye...
by ydeve
20 Jun 2017, 11:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

I think she made a mistake making statements that are against the doctrines of the church in that F&T meeting context. I don't fault her opinion, I feel for her plight as a gay member of the church. I would want her to feel accepted in my Ward and would support her in her membership. So my disagree...
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 12:43
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

From a cursory inspection, it looks staged. Upon closer inspection, everything about it looks totally legit. On the timing of the story, for those who think this was staged, the story was originally posted as text on r/exmormon on May 9th and was highly upvoted. We then heard nothing about it for o...
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 10:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

On the other hand, it could have been recorded for exactly what happened. I think it's possible that it was for both reasons. If it turned out well, there's something for Samantha to have to remember. If it turns out poorly, there's something that can be used to raise awareness of how queer kids ar...
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 10:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

I also think this quote brings up a very good point. This is also why I am against hormone-therapy and sex-changes for those under 18. It's a BIG-DEAL, one that requires a lot of sacrifice, and is a very difficult and challenging process. The teenage years are a difficult time, and the worst thing ...
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 07:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why the Church abuses
Replies: 42
Views: 956

Re: Why the Church abuses

At this point I'd say most of the ignorance is willful, at least to some degree. This is how you get people who hear many testimonies of those who are abused and dismiss it all as lies and propaganda, how you get family members who describe their "loved ones" as having gone astray and feel the need ...
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 06:12
Forum: Support
Topic: Help talking to a spouse
Replies: 29
Views: 421

Re: Help talking to a spouse

I ran across this blog post on reddit. It tries to explain how exmormons feel to TBMs and does a great job at not being anti. You might be able to get some ideas from it.

https://medium.com/@brynnetg/they-can-l ... 98cc12d399
by ydeve
19 Jun 2017, 04:40
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds
Replies: 47
Views: 597

Re: Of Testimonies and Twelve Year Olds

My take is that very few people use F&T meeting to share a testimony, but Savanna actually was sharing one. The criticism of her writing down her message beforehand makes no sense to me. It's a topic that can be difficult to share about and can bring up lots of past hurt. You want to avoid offending...
by ydeve
18 Jun 2017, 11:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Why the Church abuses
Replies: 42
Views: 956

Re: Why the Church abuses

I do think the Church systematically abuses members on the margins. I still think a lot of it is due to entitlement and control. I think some of it arises from ignorance. I don't know how much ignorance is wilful. If someone thinks he doesn't need your opinion because he honestly believes that God ...