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by mfree6464
29 May 2019, 08:01
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens
Replies: 18
Views: 694

Re: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens

DW and I recently celebrated our anniversary. We stayed in a very nice hotel and when we were being shown to our room it was pointed out that we were being offered a complimentary bottle of champagne. I am still active and hold a calling but do not currently hold a recommend - still sorting out my f...
by mfree6464
18 Apr 2019, 07:40
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith Could Not Have Written the Book of Mormon
Replies: 89
Views: 4813

Re: Joseph Smith Could Not Have Written the Book of Mormon

Sorry I'm like a week late to the party. Only today am I noticing that this thread I started has some new life. I jumped into several conversations where the topic clearly called for evidence and a conclusion ... If you don't want an answer, then don't ask the question. I don't have much to add to t...
by mfree6464
13 Mar 2019, 04:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1147

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

Where I feel we need help is with the belief that being more obedient will earn us our desired blessing. Should the blessing not come, the default position becomes, "we must not have been obedient enough." I hear a variant of this most Sundays. I think this stems from D&C 130: 20-21 ... "There is a...
by mfree6464
13 Mar 2019, 04:30
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1147

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

BTW, I don't see the Ponzi scheme analogy hanging here -- a Ponzi scheme is where one person invests money for a return. The manager of the scheme uses the money from secondary investors to pay the return to the first set of investors, and so on. In this case, I don't see people putting in effort a...
by mfree6464
08 Mar 2019, 10:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1147

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

...a part of Jesus' journey included him uttering the words, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Even Jesus felt abandoned and alone at points along his journey... I've thought a lot lately about the fact that Jesus was left alone for a time and seemingly saddened (or at least affected in ...
by mfree6464
07 Mar 2019, 13:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1147

A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

Does it ever feel like it's all just a big spiritual ponzi scheme to any of you? I had trouble sleeping last night (life continues to be very difficult) and this analogy came to mind. I paid in and sacrificed for so many years when life was relatively good. My thinking was (and this was taught to me...
by mfree6464
07 Jan 2019, 09:00
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Changes and more changes
Replies: 12
Views: 642

Re: Changes and more changes

When speaking of all the recent church changes in his December 2018 Ensign article, Jeffrey R Holand said the following: As our ninth article of faith declares, “We believe all that God has revealed”—that’s often the easy part. It takes a special kind of faith to “believe that He will yet reveal ma...
by mfree6464
04 Jan 2019, 08:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is it Good to be Ungrateful?
Replies: 8
Views: 374

Is it Good to be Ungrateful?

The local radio station in the small town where we live offers an inspirational quote each morning between songs. Today's quote went something like this: The wise man is not full of sorrow for that which he lacks but rejoices in that which he has. On the surface this quote spoke to me. I have been c...
by mfree6464
03 Jan 2019, 16:49
Forum: Support
Topic: Temple recommend interviews and "testimony"
Replies: 64
Views: 3355

Re: Temple recommend interviews and "testimony"

We can't define "testimony" as "granting the possibility of truth" or "hoping that something is true," can we? I think the answer to the OP as quoted above is, yes. Here is my thinking: I don't believe members of the church are required to "know", we are required to have faith. The first principle ...
by mfree6464
07 Dec 2018, 06:57
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: God's Law vs Man's Law Paradox
Replies: 16
Views: 757

Re: God's Law vs Man's Law Paradox

If you make a choice to sin, thinking you are sinning, and then find it isn't a sin, is it still a sin? That is the question. Interestingly, if the answer to that question is YES then that brings a new set of consequences into play. Example: Say someone is placed on an island at birth, completely i...