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by mfree6464
07 Oct 2019, 11:41
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Changing What We Pray For
Replies: 2
Views: 133

Changing What We Pray For

Sadly, a young family in our stake recently lost a father to cancer. They have 5 children ages 5 - 15. It was and still is terribly heartbreaking. Needless to say a lot of fasting, priesthood blessings and prayers were offered on their behalf. Prayer has sort of been a focus of my spiritual journey ...
by mfree6464
18 Sep 2019, 09:22
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Did Jesus Learn From the Atonement?
Replies: 3
Views: 179

Did Jesus Learn From the Atonement?

Was thinking about the Atonement this morning. The way I understand it, according to the LDS church (and perhaps others churches as well) the Atonement has two roles - to redeem and to enable. The redeeming power allows all to overcome sin and return to live with God. The enabling power give us an a...
by mfree6464
17 Sep 2019, 16:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is It Arrogant to Pray?
Replies: 12
Views: 367

Is It Arrogant to Pray?

Was watching Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee this morning on Netflix. It was the episode where Jerry Seinfeld spends the morning with Ricky Gervais. The topic of religion came up in a roundabout way and Ricky started telling Jerry that he doesn't ever pray. He said that it makes him feel arrogant. ...
by mfree6464
29 May 2019, 08:01
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens
Replies: 18
Views: 879

Re: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens

DW and I recently celebrated our anniversary. We stayed in a very nice hotel and when we were being shown to our room it was pointed out that we were being offered a complimentary bottle of champagne. I am still active and hold a calling but do not currently hold a recommend - still sorting out my f...
by mfree6464
18 Apr 2019, 07:40
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Joseph Smith Could Not Have Written the Book of Mormon
Replies: 89
Views: 5498

Re: Joseph Smith Could Not Have Written the Book of Mormon

Sorry I'm like a week late to the party. Only today am I noticing that this thread I started has some new life. I jumped into several conversations where the topic clearly called for evidence and a conclusion ... If you don't want an answer, then don't ask the question. I don't have much to add to t...
by mfree6464
13 Mar 2019, 04:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1451

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

Where I feel we need help is with the belief that being more obedient will earn us our desired blessing. Should the blessing not come, the default position becomes, "we must not have been obedient enough." I hear a variant of this most Sundays. I think this stems from D&C 130: 20-21 ... "There is a...
by mfree6464
13 Mar 2019, 04:30
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1451

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

BTW, I don't see the Ponzi scheme analogy hanging here -- a Ponzi scheme is where one person invests money for a return. The manager of the scheme uses the money from secondary investors to pay the return to the first set of investors, and so on. In this case, I don't see people putting in effort a...
by mfree6464
08 Mar 2019, 10:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1451

Re: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

...a part of Jesus' journey included him uttering the words, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Even Jesus felt abandoned and alone at points along his journey... I've thought a lot lately about the fact that Jesus was left alone for a time and seemingly saddened (or at least affected in ...
by mfree6464
07 Mar 2019, 13:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme
Replies: 40
Views: 1451

A Spiritual Ponzi Scheme

Does it ever feel like it's all just a big spiritual ponzi scheme to any of you? I had trouble sleeping last night (life continues to be very difficult) and this analogy came to mind. I paid in and sacrificed for so many years when life was relatively good. My thinking was (and this was taught to me...
by mfree6464
07 Jan 2019, 09:00
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Changes and more changes
Replies: 12
Views: 680

Re: Changes and more changes

When speaking of all the recent church changes in his December 2018 Ensign article, Jeffrey R Holand said the following: As our ninth article of faith declares, “We believe all that God has revealed”—that’s often the easy part. It takes a special kind of faith to “believe that He will yet reveal ma...