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by dande48
17 Dec 2018, 23:42
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 95
Views: 4522

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

In making the decisions he did, he became exactly what he criticized so severely, even if he felt justified. Did he? I wouldn't say he "became" anything. He critized the Church, among other things, for not being transparent and open. He lied to prevent the Church from hiding what he felt should've ...
by dande48
17 Dec 2018, 23:06
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

Maybe it is kind of a chicken and egg thing. Do you baptism and teach them young so they know the blessings of being in that lifestyle by living it... only to see some will choose to reject it and leave feeling they were pressured into it, or do you let them figure out what they want and then they ...
by dande48
17 Dec 2018, 06:06
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

On top of that, can you imagine what would happen if the baptism age were raised to 18? If some statistics are to be believed, something like 50% of the youth go inactive within a year of leaving the home. Transpose that stat over to the yearly children of record baptism stat. It would fall from ro...
by dande48
16 Dec 2018, 08:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 95
Views: 4522

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

There might be motivated forgetting happening, too. One thing I've noticed about the exmo community is that many claim to remember what it's like to be a believer, and many say things that suggest they don't. I'm left to conclude that at least in some of them, when they choose to move from "us" to ...
by dande48
16 Dec 2018, 00:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

I get that there are many TBMs that will never lose their testimony and that will say how great all this is but that doesn't mean that there aren't also many current TBMs that will in fact start to seriously question the Church and end up losing their testimony in a way that is similar to what I ex...
by dande48
15 Dec 2018, 17:46
Forum: Support
Topic: How can I help divorce?
Replies: 6
Views: 142

Re: How can I help divorce?

It's a very painful thing to go through. If he needs to talk about it, be willing to listen. But if he doesn't bring up the divorce, his ex, or his kids, I would avoid bringing it up. Focus on life beyond divorce. For all the good marriage does, it absolutely strains and sometimes even eliminates th...
by dande48
15 Dec 2018, 14:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-year old Deacons and Beehives

I’d like to see baptismal age bumped to age of majority, to make all equal in the eyes of the church. To quote Elder Christofferson on the Exclusion Policy. And so with the other ordinances on through baptism and so on, there's time for that if, when a child reaches majority, he or she feels like t...
by dande48
15 Dec 2018, 11:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

I mean why is it that I had to wait until I was exactly 12 years old to receive the priesthood if it would have been alright for 11 year olds to receive the priesthood all along? To quote Nelson in conjunction with this revelation: "Our youth and children are among the best the Lord has ever sent i...
by dande48
15 Dec 2018, 10:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 95
Views: 4522

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

Previously, the Stake President had expressed a desire for a reconciliation, provided Bill met certain requirements, so an excommunication was not 100% certain. In the excommunication letter, the SP also indicated excommunication was not the result for which he'd hoped either. TBH, I think the lett...
by dande48
14 Dec 2018, 11:43
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 40
Views: 548

Re: 11-year old Deacons and Beehives

That's super interesting. Growing up, I always thought that the age for getting the priesthood, and advancing in the offices, was tied to unchanging, doctrinal revelation. Turns out, it is just policy that can be changed whenever "those in charge" see fit. This change does make quite a lot more sens...