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by dande48
11 Dec 2018, 11:23
Forum: Support
Topic: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?
Replies: 11
Views: 115

Re: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?

Do any of us really know truth? I think as more evidence and better information presents itself, I can better know "the truth". And, to quote the quote in my signature line, "Even though there are no ways of knowing for sure, there are ways of knowing for pretty sure." I think the fact that no one ...
by dande48
11 Dec 2018, 08:24
Forum: Support
Topic: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?
Replies: 11
Views: 115

Re: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?

DarkJedi wrote:
11 Dec 2018, 05:57
In studying Bushman and Givens, I think JS saw himself more as a seeker/finder of truth in restoring it as opposed to everything being "revealed" through revelation.
I can believe that. I'm just not sure JS was very accurate at determining what was truth and what wasn't.
by dande48
11 Dec 2018, 07:23
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: He totally changed sacrament meeting
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: He totally changed sacrament meeting

The real question... is the 23rd close enough to Christmas to trigger a SM only Sunday? Probably not. I LOVE it when they do this... but also think it's kind of funny. What's it say about the other two hours, when the local leadership recognizes people more important things to be doing around Chris...
by dande48
10 Dec 2018, 17:29
Forum: Support
Topic: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?
Replies: 11
Views: 115

Re: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?

Well, Joseph Smith's revelations did borrow from other sources. The Book of Mormon is a huge example of this, as it borrows heavily from the JKV, including mistranslations, some of which were important enough to correct in Joseph Smith's translation of the bible. The endowment ceremony is another on...
by dande48
10 Dec 2018, 13:46
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 12
Views: 196

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

As I wrote in the thread about "continuing restoration", I am hopeful that the church will on day get to the point of being able to classify certain historical issues as errors that we admit were mistakes and that we put off the table to ever return to again (even if we were sitting at the head of ...
by dande48
09 Dec 2018, 19:49
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: An Introduction to Zen Buddhism
Replies: 7
Views: 177

Re: An Introduction to Zen Buddhism

In all honesty, I do identify far more as Buddhist, than LDS. I love "The Art of Happiness" by Dalai Lama XIV. I'd be willing to say I'd follow the Dalai Lama and have trust in him far beyond anyone in our current Q15. I've found Buddhism is a lot simplier belief system than any other religion. Simp...
by dande48
09 Dec 2018, 19:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 65
Views: 3816

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

This is a great discussion. The only thing I would like to bring up is...let's say one of us in this forum either ends up working for the leadership in Salt Lake City or gets a calling which allows any of us to be around the prophets and apostles and whoever finds out there is a good amount of corr...
by dande48
09 Dec 2018, 19:04
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 12
Views: 196

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

There's a big distinction between forgiveness and reconciliation. Reconciliation, by definition, means a restoration of the relationship. Scriptures talk about reconciliation to God, but never mentions reconciling to others (except 1 Cor 7). While it is important to forgive all those who have wronge...
by dande48
08 Dec 2018, 23:34
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 65
Views: 3816

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

Looking at it from Bill's possible perspective, if you felt you'd been lied to for years, after giving up your time, a lot of your money, only to find, in your estimation, it's not what it claims, would you feel badly about reneging on a promise? Does anyone know if that letter Bill recieved, and t...
by dande48
08 Dec 2018, 19:53
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Been holding cards very close to vest.
Replies: 5
Views: 119

Re: Been holding cards very close to vest.

Hi Codependent! Glad you found us. We always enjoy "seeing new faces" around here. It's tough to be "Stay LDS", as you might call it, where you choose to remain a member (to whatever extent), despite having doubts, unorthodox beliefs, and/or strongly disagreeing with certain Church teachings, polici...