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by grobert93
05 Jun 2019, 05:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens
Replies: 18
Views: 614

Re: Seeing the Word of Wisdom through a New Lens

I think part of what makes the word of wisdom (and most other commandments) become toxic is not just the strictness of the rules but the membership judging and becoming un-Christlike to others based on their obedience or perception of faithfulness in regards to obedience. If family, friends, or lead...
by grobert93
02 Jun 2019, 07:56
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?
Replies: 47
Views: 1251

Re: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?

'The Correct Name of the Church' talk was rough. Part of the challenge is what a speaker intended to say, what a speaker actually says, and what the listener hears are all distinct and different things. I don't know about blame, but Nelson didn't mince words, it was a rebuke. Tossing in a simple, "...
by grobert93
02 Jun 2019, 06:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: RS video
Replies: 4
Views: 210

Re: RS video

But there is a bit of risk with doing some of this. I remember just in the last week reading/hearing on a podcast where a woman was really bitter that she had been told her education was not important. She married early, didn't finish college, had lots of kids, and really felt like she had not done...
by grobert93
01 Jun 2019, 05:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?
Replies: 47
Views: 1251

Re: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?

If I were a prophet, and I didn't have an actual visitation commanding me to write a revelation (or a compelling vision), I would be reluctant to publish anything. First, it's weird in current society for a prophet to say they had a revelation and put it into scripture. We're already marginalized e...
by grobert93
24 May 2019, 05:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?
Replies: 47
Views: 1251

Re: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?

RIght before conference there was a flurry of rumors that the Word of Wisdom was to be adjusted in some way. I was surprised how much that bothered me and how relieved I was when such a change did not come to pass. The odd thing is I don't feel particularly invested in that particular commandment. ...
by grobert93
23 May 2019, 05:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?
Replies: 47
Views: 1251

Re: How much can the church change yet still remain credible?

One catch-22 I find the church faces is the need to change versus the need to stay credible. On one hand, the church leaders often need to make sweeping changes that improve the experience of being a Mormon. On the other hand, when these changes reverse deeply held policies, practice, and even doct...
by grobert93
15 May 2019, 10:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: De-emphasis on Food Storage?
Replies: 23
Views: 779

Re: De-emphasis on Food Storage?

I agree that we are backing away practices that might categorize us as a "doomsday prepper" church. What i'd like to see is an expansion of food storage. we are told to become self-reliant, which implies and to me means to avoid depending on other companies to produce and provides the services that...
by grobert93
14 May 2019, 19:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: De-emphasis on Food Storage?
Replies: 23
Views: 779

Re: De-emphasis on Food Storage?

In another thread, it was mentioned that food storage might be de-emphasized now. I would like to explore this further. Is this true? How do we know this, and what would be the rationale for it, if true, given the recent statements that the second coming is night? (it's always nigh)... Interested i...
by grobert93
14 May 2019, 17:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: RM's auto-admitted to BYU-Pathway Program
Replies: 26
Views: 544

Re: RM's auto-admitted to BYU-Pathway Program

I guess this could be a win-win. It serves as a "GI bill" of sorts to sweeten the pot for people on the fence about serving a mission (more missionaries for the church) and the pathway program has a heavy church activity focus (addressing the issue of RMs going inactive). Five or so years ago retur...
by grobert93
14 May 2019, 06:12
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Sealing waiting period policy discontinued
Replies: 57
Views: 1616

Re: Sealing waiting period policy discontinued

Sorry this may not be terribly relevant. I remember right after the revelation granting black people the priesthood the Church News editorial (Mconkie, I believe) was about the folly of interracial marriage. I don’t remember how often or long such counsel persisted, or even that it did publicly. Bu...