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by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 15:06
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

So you don't at all feel like you have hamstrung the church when you cut the need for continual revelation via an interrupted line of priesthood authority? I used to separate the the church from the gospel, but I don't do so as much now. You don't gather figs of thistles after all. I also would say ...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 12:13
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

Got it :)
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 11:46
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

I find your concept of debate startling. I debate to determine truth by approaching a concept from every possible angle. A good debate should remove any incorrect facts or assumption leaving only the bare truth, or as near to it as imperfect understanding can get. Still, I see you are right. This is...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 11:38
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

So I am apostate from the church, but I am always trying to be true to my interpretation of the gospel. Sounds like most excommunicated members.
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 11:16
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

I know the church invites people who disagree to attend. The "Smokers Welcome" story comes to mind. As long as I don't teach my beliefs I won't be thrown out. I just feel sad that I feel stuck still going. Maybe I have too negative a view for this forum. You guys are awesome, and many of you still b...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 11:03
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

I get your frustration, and I understand. I, and others here, have been or are where you are. Ihave reached the conclusion that it's not black and white at all, it's all gray. We see through glass darkly. It's not an if/then proposition. The idea that God gives us specific blessing for specific thi...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 11:00
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

Don't worry. No one here offends me. I love when people are willing to share their souls with me, even if it disagrees with me. I tend to argue the same way no matter what the topic. I love debate. Always have. My little sister and I used to argue for fun for hours. She is in law school now in Syrac...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 09:19
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

I would add that every time people expressed how the road was perfect they also said that anyone who was mugged on it was deficient in some way. TTT, just trying to comprehend your perspective. I've gotten a sense from your posts that you make pretty liberal use of hyperbole, so I can't tell what t...
by taletotell
05 Mar 2015, 06:41
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

Great metaphor. I would add that every time people expressed how the road was perfect they also said that anyone who was mugged on it was deficient in some way. At least I have my wife who is understanding. She gets frustrated with it all too, even though she doesn't act as though she wants to leave...
by taletotell
04 Mar 2015, 14:50
Forum: Support
Topic: I need help.
Replies: 197
Views: 7075

Re: I need help.

The new commandment is my preference: john 13 34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Says what kind of love.