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by jhp33
13 Oct 2014, 19:04
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Does historicity matter?
Replies: 72
Views: 3900

Re: Does historicity matter?

Well, I guess really think about the question for a minute.

All things being as they are, does historicity matter? As in, if the Book of Mormon turns out to not be historical, would that being so have a direct effect on your salvation?

To me, the answer is definitively no.
by jhp33
12 Sep 2014, 22:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Denver Snuffer Update
Replies: 34
Views: 2556

Re: Denver Snuffer Update

I'm pretty sure Denver actually said anyone baptized under authority gained AFTER the April 2014 LDS GC must be re-baptized, not everyone. That's when he claims authority was wrested from the church. That being said, I'd love to hear specifically in what manner Denver believes he was called to be a ...
by jhp33
04 Aug 2014, 15:40
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Unconditional Love of God in a performance-based religion
Replies: 48
Views: 4182

Re: Unconditional Love of God in a performance-based religio

Just because God loves you unconditionally does not mean he will or should reward you unconditionally. If a parent loved his two children the same but one of those children frequently disobeyed him, that parent would not give both children the same reward, for that would be unfair. There is no conf...
by jhp33
04 Aug 2014, 15:32
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Perfection
Replies: 14
Views: 1091

Re: Perfection

From a book I'm reading: In Luther's translation of the Bible, the word usually rendered perfect ( teleioi ) is rendered as vollkommen . That is, complete , whole , entire . The Atonement is not a backup plan in case we fall short in the process (as we inevitably will); it is the ordained means wher...
by jhp33
04 Aug 2014, 15:19
Forum: Support
Topic: worthiness questions in calling interview
Replies: 22
Views: 1991

Re: worthiness questions in calling interview

If it is a stake-level calling, the Stake President is responsible to consult with the individual's bishop to determine worthiness prior to issuing a call. This is usually done through the ward's high council rep. That is how worthiness is determined, not through the meeting where the calling is ext...
by jhp33
16 Jul 2014, 07:36
Forum: Support
Topic: James Fowler's Stages of Faith
Replies: 108
Views: 37844

Re: James Fowler's Stages of Faith

I just read this entire thread as well. What a doozy, but so interesting and insightful. I had an epiphany of sorts over the last few weeks. I have felt better than I have since I started my "faith crisis." I didn't have words to describe what I was thinking or feeling, but when I read this thread t...
by jhp33
10 Jul 2014, 20:01
Forum: Support
Topic: "Here I Stand. God Help Me, I Can Do No Other."
Replies: 7
Views: 382

Re: "Here I Stand. God Help Me, I Can Do No Other."

The frustrating part comes where the rubber meets the road. If the brethren have been and continue today to be fallible, how do I know what teachings today are correct, and which ones are incorrect and will be changed, modifies, or corrected in 15 years? I don't NEED this certainty. I don't struggl...
by jhp33
10 Jun 2014, 17:49
Forum: Support
Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
Replies: 36
Views: 1170

Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next

You brought up meeting with your bishop, that's good. Don't be too hard on the guy Thanks, DJ. My intentions are actually quite the opposite. I want people to know that it's precisely because I don't want to become a bitter ex-mormon that I'm taking these steps. I love the people in my ward. So muc...
by jhp33
10 Jun 2014, 17:02
Forum: Support
Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
Replies: 36
Views: 1170

Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next

I think perhaps we're speaking past each other, or probably more accurately, I haven't been perfectly clear. I am very much willing to accept that the conclusions I come to are not absolute and don't represent the only way to view things. In fact, I don't have a conclusion as to what the pictures sh...
by jhp33
10 Jun 2014, 16:23
Forum: Support
Topic: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next
Replies: 36
Views: 1170

Re: Where I'm at...not sure what to do next

Your situation (faith crisis / transition) is causing what you see, NOT what actually is happening in the pictures. This is where I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Are you saying that you DON'T see DOM's thumb over (or in between) the knuckles on JFK's hand?? I can understand someone saying they ...