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by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 12:20
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Free agency vs. free agency
Replies: 8
Views: 72

Re: Free agency vs. free agency

As Amy and Dande have stated - our ability to choose is not unencumbered. I myself am a strong proponent of "limited agency." I'm right there with you. I've attempted to have conversations about this topic with some orthodox friends and the idea doesn't get much traction. We tend to only extend thi...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 11:52
Forum: Introductions
Topic: My Story (Glad to find this place)
Replies: 8
Views: 65

Re: My Story (Glad to find this place)

Those juxtapositions can be tough. In the past I used to visit some other religion/church once per month. Just as an attempt at being more balanced, always with this idea that the LDS church was my home church. I've had the contrast between the two experiences go both ways, sometimes I felt more pos...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 11:41
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 23
Views: 216

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?

The part that gets me is that we are not counting visits -- it's whether needs are taken care of. What do you say at the door of an inactive family? Hi, I'm here just to connect -- can we visit a few minutes? You can't just say "Hi, I'm your minister what are your temporal or spiritual needs right ...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 07:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?
Replies: 13
Views: 120

Re: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?

dande48 wrote:
23 Apr 2018, 07:41
Covenant-eers work out of a sense of duty. Volunteers work out of a sense of love.
:thumbup:
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 07:45
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Free agency vs. free agency
Replies: 8
Views: 72

Re: Free agency vs. free agency

In the past I took the phrase to mean agency to freely choose. People that are overly concerned with justice and making sure everyone is properly punished pointed out how there is no "free" agency, meaning freedom from consequences. On the Wings of Eagles This leads us to God’s great gift to His chi...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 07:35
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?
Replies: 13
Views: 120

Re: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?

Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants? Yes. ;) That meeting sounded like, "The beatings will continue until morale improves." The layers upon layers of guilt and shame we heap on people at church fail to motivate anymore, if anything I find this approach demotivating. I've found t...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 07:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What is the purpose of the ministering program?
Replies: 6
Views: 68

Re: What is the purpose of the ministering program?

He also specifically said the ministering elders assigned to the particular families were going to be taking more of the lead in those things, not involving the bishop at all and having less involvement of the EQP. Paraphrasing, he said if one of your families needed a project you are in charge of ...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 06:45
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 23
Views: 216

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?

I like the idea of erasing the lines between the EQ and RS, making sure everyone is covered by someone in either group and having less overlap. It would be nice if we took the approach of allowing people to do things however they'd like instead of presenting one model for everyone to follow. E.g. if...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 06:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What is the purpose of the ministering program?
Replies: 6
Views: 68

Re: What is the purpose of the ministering program?

I'm not sure. The way I see other churches do things is that when someone in their flock has a need it is communicated and the whole church pools their resources together to meet the need whereas in our church we create lots of busy work around that simple concept... our whole church is also there t...
by nibbler
23 Apr 2018, 06:17
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 23
Views: 216

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching!

From the FP letter: Ministering is Christlike caring for others and helping meet their spiritual and temporal needs. Pretty clear to me, but in my experience with some no amount of training will help them understand that very simple statement. It's a simple statement but I think the challenge is th...