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by nibbler
19 Sep 2018, 19:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"
Replies: 13
Views: 208

Re: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"

Thanks for the clarification. Don't let the relative brevity of the thanks be an indication of the sincerity or depth of the thanks. I seriously do appreciate the clarification. I really struggle to express myself on this topic. But if I had to try. The article is a public shaming of public shaming....
by nibbler
19 Sep 2018, 08:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"
Replies: 13
Views: 208

Re: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"

On Own Now, I'm not sure how to phrase this, please have patience with me. Where's the equilibrium? Often when I see people hurting and desperately trying to be understood I see them get reprimanded for being too negative. Are we not then being negative towards the people we view as being negative? ...
by nibbler
19 Sep 2018, 07:47
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"
Replies: 13
Views: 208

Re: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"

In fairness, I don't think it's the whole of the Church. I wouldn't say it's most members. I can say the same. In my experience I'd say it's even limited to the same small group of people. Some of the higher profile callings will eventually be staffed by people in that small group and when that hap...
by nibbler
19 Sep 2018, 06:27
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"
Replies: 13
Views: 208

Re: Very good post about "what I wish Mormons knew about those that leave"

Thanks for sharing. I have to admit, my first reaction while reading was, "man, our culture sucks." But I didn't find anything in the article that was surprising. I realize that it takes lots of words and stories to help people understand another person's point of view but if I had to take one thing...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 14:51
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 47
Views: 831

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

How much help do we need as a culture to view not obeying local and general leaders as being disobedient and rebellious? Does it take full on sedition to make people think that way or is it the default position when someone disobeys? I get it. In your analogy I'd take the position of, "Well, I guess...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 12:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 47
Views: 831

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

I think the time frame in which we would like to experience change factors into our approach. Some may wish to see change in the short term, something that happens now or soon. Others may be satisfied knowing that things will eventually change, even it it takes 100 years. It's hard to fault people t...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 07:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 47
Views: 831

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

Does the civil rights movement succeed with just MLK Jr. or just Malcolm X or do both play their roles? People leaving play their role, people staying play theirs. IMO both camps are utterly voiceless in the church. Leave, your voice mostly doesn't matter; stay, your voice mostly doesn't matter, the...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 04:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 47
Views: 831

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

I have one question though, how do having all these resignations help Protect the Children? I suppose at the very least it protects the children of the adults that resign, assuming they take their children with them. That and the unborn generations that follow them that may have otherwise been memb...
by nibbler
16 Sep 2018, 07:33
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report
Replies: 18
Views: 285

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report

And as different: * The fact that everything was so scripted to the letter, even the responses. * The use of audiovisual. * Lack of windows. * Piped music. Maybe every ward is different but I can honestly say that I've been to LDS meetings where each of these differences has held true. :P I do find...