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by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 14:51
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 43
Views: 699

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

How much help do we need as a culture to view not obeying local and general leaders as being disobedient and rebellious? Does it take full on sedition to make people think that way or is it the default position when someone disobeys? I get it. In your analogy I'd take the position of, "Well, I guess...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 12:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 43
Views: 699

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

I think the time frame in which we would like to experience change factors into our approach. Some may wish to see change in the short term, something that happens now or soon. Others may be satisfied knowing that things will eventually change, even it it takes 100 years. It's hard to fault people t...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 07:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 43
Views: 699

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

Does the civil rights movement succeed with just MLK Jr. or just Malcolm X or do both play their roles? People leaving play their role, people staying play theirs. IMO both camps are utterly voiceless in the church. Leave, your voice mostly doesn't matter; stay, your voice mostly doesn't matter, the...
by nibbler
17 Sep 2018, 04:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 43
Views: 699

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

I have one question though, how do having all these resignations help Protect the Children? I suppose at the very least it protects the children of the adults that resign, assuming they take their children with them. That and the unborn generations that follow them that may have otherwise been memb...
by nibbler
16 Sep 2018, 07:33
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report
Replies: 16
Views: 243

Re: Jehovah's Witnesses, return and report

And as different: * The fact that everything was so scripted to the letter, even the responses. * The use of audiovisual. * Lack of windows. * Piped music. Maybe every ward is different but I can honestly say that I've been to LDS meetings where each of these differences has held true. :P I do find...
by nibbler
13 Sep 2018, 07:07
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 33
Views: 648

Re: YSA Fireside

This isn't my father's world, so this can't be my father's church. As a social scientist by nature, it is fascinating to watch it all unfold. Unfold. Kinda reminds me of: The first experience occurred as we entered a dark room and turned on a light switch. Remember how in an instant a bright flood ...
by nibbler
13 Sep 2018, 05:32
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 628

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

Stalin yes - one of the biggest mass murderers in history. Possibly killed more than Hitler. I think that proves my point. I am not angry at Stalin. I barely think about him at all. When I do I most often think about him in the context as a ally in WW2. Even if I remember his atrocities, I do not t...
by nibbler
12 Sep 2018, 05:50
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 33
Views: 648

Re: YSA Fireside

I want to revisit a lasting concern I've had. Good for the church for taking steps to get better. Good for the youth that will be inoculated. What of the people caught in the middle? What are we going to do for them? The people that we routinely label as having been led by Satan but their only short...
by nibbler
11 Sep 2018, 10:39
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 33
Views: 648

Re: YSA Fireside

Ninth Question (1:03:06) : What has been the event of the restoration that has most strengthened your testimonies and how can we apply it to ourselves? I want to know what the restoration means to you and how it has helped you and your families. - - - - - - - - - - I wanted to separate the question...