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by DarkJedi
23 Apr 2018, 07:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Free agency vs. free agency
Replies: 3
Views: 28

Free agency vs. free agency

How is that for a title? Here's the story: My son was telling me about his stake conference and that he liked the SPs talk about free agency. Essentially the SP asserted that agency is not free. As my son continued to relate things about the talk I realized that the SP was using a different definiti...
by DarkJedi
23 Apr 2018, 07:09
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 13
Views: 133

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching!

From the FP letter: Ministering is Christlike caring for others and helping meet their spiritual and temporal needs. Pretty clear to me, but in my experience with some no amount of training will help them understand that very simple statement. It's a simple statement but I think the challenge is th...
by DarkJedi
23 Apr 2018, 06:53
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?
Replies: 9
Views: 62

Re: Are we a church of volunteers, assignments or covenants?

I suppose it depends on who you ask. My own view of covenants is probably quite different from the mainstream view. I personally believe we are an organization of volunteers. But it is easier to guilt people if they think they're breaking covenants.
by DarkJedi
23 Apr 2018, 06:48
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: What is the purpose of the ministering program?
Replies: 5
Views: 50

Re: What is the purpose of the ministering program?

I think that's pretty much it, SD. I don't think it's significantly changed in scope. I do think the job of the EQP and RSP has changed a bit to take much of the "welfare" load from the bishop, but arguably it should have been that way all along. The Elders Quorum Moving Company did come up in PH ye...
by DarkJedi
22 Apr 2018, 17:03
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 13
Views: 133

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching!

I think the purpose of it needs to be spelled out more clearly too -- anyone seen the purpose clearly stated? From the FP letter: Ministering is Christlike caring for others and helping meet their spiritual and temporal needs. Pretty clear to me, but in my experience with some no amount of training...
by DarkJedi
22 Apr 2018, 16:09
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Filled With Charity Even When Not Living Church Commandments
Replies: 8
Views: 92

Re: Filled With Charity Even When Not Living Church Commandments

I have had a similar experience as well. More than once actually. I am reminded that when Joseph Smith went to the grove to pray his main goal was to ask for forgiveness (made very clear if you read all four main accounts). I'm with others who say count it as blessing or a tender mercy and go with i...
by DarkJedi
22 Apr 2018, 16:03
Forum: Support
Topic: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching?
Replies: 13
Views: 133

Re: Home Teaching is Over, Long Live Home Teaching!

I think my ward, and stake actually, are much like Curt's. Our discussion have been pretty good. We talked about a more holistic view today - taking care of more than just physical or spiritual needs but social/psychological needs. IN a nutshell, just plain being friends.Visits were not mentioned on...
by DarkJedi
22 Apr 2018, 12:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hawkgrrl Special on BCC
Replies: 5
Views: 119

Re: Hawkgrrl Special on BCC

Thanks for sharing, Mom (and Hawk). I've shared it with a couple people I think might benefit from it.
by DarkJedi
22 Apr 2018, 12:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson in Africa
Replies: 42
Views: 738

Re: Nelson in Africa

Maybe if they are lucky; it depends on the bishop (leadership roulette). There are plenty of horror stories online of Church members that were denied any assistance when they really needed it after they had been paying tithing for years leading up to that point. In any case, my impression is that t...
by DarkJedi
20 Apr 2018, 21:21
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Navigating from the Dark Night
Replies: 15
Views: 277

Re: Navigating from the Dark Night

Thank you for your post. I get that tithing is between me and God I just think that if we go from being full 10% (net) tithing payers to only paying like $1,000 for the year the Bishop would be rather skeptical and my high-guilt conscience would get the best of me and I'd word vomit my feelings eve...