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by DarkJedi
11 Dec 2018, 10:12
Forum: Support
Topic: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?
Replies: 11
Views: 115

Re: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?

In studying Bushman and Givens, I think JS saw himself more as a seeker/finder of truth in restoring it as opposed to everything being "revealed" through revelation. I can believe that. I'm just not sure JS was very accurate at determining what was truth and what wasn't. Yeah, I think he sort of ha...
by DarkJedi
11 Dec 2018, 08:01
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: He totally changed sacrament meeting
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: He totally changed sacrament meeting

The real question... is the 23rd close enough to Christmas to trigger a SM only Sunday? Probably not. Actually, yes. I thought that was well known/publicized. The Q15 has directed that 12/23 will be SM only. I know that our SP has instructed the leaders of each ward in our stake to remind people gi...
by DarkJedi
11 Dec 2018, 06:13
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation
Replies: 12
Views: 196

Re: Elder Holland Talk on Reconciliation

I'm with OON on this one. I also didn't like the talk and for the same reason.
by DarkJedi
11 Dec 2018, 06:09
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: He totally changed sacrament meeting
Replies: 11
Views: 294

Re: He totally changed sacrament meeting

Yesterday at church, I was reminded of this thread. Our bishop made an announcement that the Sunday before Christmas, all of the talks would be on Christ and to be sure to invite someone. I was glad to hear it, but I couldn't help but think, "Shouldn't it always be like that?" I know there times I ...
by DarkJedi
11 Dec 2018, 05:57
Forum: Support
Topic: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?
Replies: 11
Views: 115

Re: Protestant Reformation Discussion - What Would You Say?

Well, Joseph Smith's revelations did borrow from other sources. The Book of Mormon is a huge example of this, as it borrows heavily from the JKV, including mistranslations, some of which were important enough to correct in Joseph Smith's translation of the bible. The endowment ceremony is another o...
by DarkJedi
09 Dec 2018, 05:31
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Been holding cards very close to vest.
Replies: 5
Views: 119

Re: Been holding cards very close to vest.

Welcome to the forum and I'm glad you found us. Thirty years is a long time to have learned how to cope and it sounds lie you have learned quite a bit. As dande said, being OK at church is a good place to be, as is being OK with the church. You probably have a good amount of wisdom to share here. Pl...
by DarkJedi
08 Dec 2018, 12:11
Forum: Support
Topic: Ward treating us like we're inactive?
Replies: 18
Views: 245

Re: Ward treating us like we're inactive?

Question to throw out there? How should members of the Church treat the inactive, less-active, or those like many of us who aren't "all-in" in a traditional sense? Because, come to think of it, I'm not sure how I want to be treated. I just feel very sensitive when it comes to the Church. I hate bei...
by DarkJedi
07 Dec 2018, 17:08
Forum: Support
Topic: Ward treating us like we're inactive?
Replies: 18
Views: 245

Re: Ward treating us like we're inactive?

I try to get to know a lot of the peripheral people in our ward. The main folk have each other and mix with each other, but I'm the guy who talks to the corridor walkers, the folk who only take sacrament, the terminally shy, the eccentrics and the occasional visitors... I do this partly because I'v...
by DarkJedi
07 Dec 2018, 08:02
Forum: Support
Topic: Ward treating us like we're inactive?
Replies: 18
Views: 245

Re: Ward treating us like we're inactive?

I heard a saying once that says, "If you want attention from your ward, go inactive." In my experience exactly the opposite of this was true. I wouldn't worry about it, honestly. In the Christmas Party invitation thing it could be that was a YM project, maybe they were assigned as publicity or some...
by DarkJedi
06 Dec 2018, 16:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: God's Law vs Man's Law Paradox
Replies: 16
Views: 280

Re: God's Law vs Man's Law Paradox

It doesn't matter what each of them did. Though their sins be as scarlet they will be made white as now. There but by the grace of God go we.

The thread title really sums it up. Men want to make it much more complicated than it really is.