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by DarkJedi
17 Jul 2018, 08:57
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: The Millenium
Replies: 24
Views: 1404

Re: The Millenium

I don't think Isiah was talking about Christ or the Millennium, he was talking about the (then) current political situation and speaking truth to power. The bottom line is that we have taken a whole bunch of scriptures out of context and tried to weld everything together into a giant narrative abou...
by DarkJedi
16 Jul 2018, 05:59
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I'm a do no harm guy also SD. If he brought up Fanny Alger I'd talk about it. And I might fall into the a trap if he were "baiting" me to talk about my unorthodox/heterodox views by being very assertive with his orthodox views. I think your earlier assessment of just avoiding religious discussion wi...
by DarkJedi
16 Jul 2018, 05:33
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

Calling a "friend" to repent has the connotation of "I know what's right & you don't". Or "I'm in a position to judge right & wrong & you are definitely wrong & need to change." Personally, I think it can be useful and a sign of a solid friendship, if one feels comfortable enough to call the other ...
by DarkJedi
16 Jul 2018, 05:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

The church just changed HT & VT to "ministering". It seems like a kinder & more compassionate program in theory. There is also the Recovery Program. When someone confesses that they have a specific problem, are they called to repent? Of course not. (I could be wrong.) The more I think about this, t...
by DarkJedi
15 Jul 2018, 15:16
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I still maintain there are lines that, when crossed, marginalize you more than others. One is not going to church for no good reason, another is non-payment of tithing at all, another is not holding a TR, yet another is obvious WoW violations like drinking caffeinated coffee, smoking etcetera. Peop...
by DarkJedi
14 Jul 2018, 10:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

Caffeinated soda and tithing on gross: Maybe there's the hard and soft view of SD's list of hard commitments. I think most members would feel accepted even when they don't abstain from caffeinated soda. After all, it's not a part of the enforced WoW, sodas are a hedge for the members that take thin...
by DarkJedi
14 Jul 2018, 08:44
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Spiritual Anchors
Replies: 8
Views: 192

Re: Spiritual Anchors

- Satan can hear every word I say but can never read my mind. I find it odd how he turned this one round. I've heard people in my own ward say this before. Some of these same people might also stand up in F&TM and talk about Satan's influence, clearly indicating he can influence their thoughts/mind...
by DarkJedi
14 Jul 2018, 08:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1002

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I don't know SD. I know several TBM types who don't tithe on gross, consider caffeinated soda perfectly acceptable (while others bristle at any caffeine), and don't attend church while on vacation for example. And often when being totally candid and in private, there is also considerable variation i...
by DarkJedi
13 Jul 2018, 10:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?
Replies: 18
Views: 290

Re: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?

SilentDawning wrote:
13 Jul 2018, 09:30
This life is the time to prepare to meet God...
That's not the only thing Alma is wrong about IMO. :eh:
by DarkJedi
12 Jul 2018, 09:20
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Jesus and God as the Missing Benevolence In the World
Replies: 5
Views: 104

Re: Jesus and God as the Missing Benevolence In the World

I'm at work so I don't have the book ( The Christ Who Heals ) nor my notes in front of me but OON pretty much nails it. One of the main themes (if not the main theme) of that book is that original Christianity and "the restored gospel" (my quotation marks) are the same theologically but that over ti...