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by Haven
04 Nov 2014, 19:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

Re: WCF

Maybe Elder Oaks doesn't know what the organization is supporting elsewhere. Or maybe he does, but like Roy said the positives outweigh the negatives. Very possibly I've donated to an organization that promotes ideas I don't agree with so I'm just as guilty. I feel so badly about the human rights vi...
by Haven
04 Nov 2014, 11:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

Re: WCF

Whether it's SSM in Utah or illegal homosexuality in Uganda, we do believe in "honoring, obeying and sustaining the law." I think that was Oaks's point. I'm not saying the church's hand in this (if any) is OK, nor do I support any involvement Elder Oaks may have. Fortunately I don't live in Uganda ...
by Haven
04 Nov 2014, 07:03
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

Re: WCF

I'm not going to pretend to answer for startpoor, but I will throw in that Elder Oaks said this n the context of believing (or perhaps knowing) that the ban on SSM in Utah was about to be struck down. He had fought vigorously to favor of the ban. I simply believe he was reiterating AoF12 and indica...
by Haven
03 Nov 2014, 21:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

Re: WCF

Dallin H. Oaks: support the law of the land
What does this mean to you?
by Haven
03 Nov 2014, 08:26
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

Re: WCF

Supporting marriages is one thing but the organization is criminalizing homosexuals and encouraging other countries to pass laws that punish them. It's not ok imo and not Christian at all. In fact, the hate that's been shown towards LGBT is horrible. The church leaders can't truly want to include ho...
by Haven
02 Nov 2014, 19:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: WCF
Replies: 17
Views: 804

WCF

I'm really struggling with the World Congress of Families. I knew that Uganda had passed severe laws against homosexuals and that other countries have or are considering strong laws. I thought that the people pushing these laws were evangelical groups. I didn't realize that WCF is a firm supporter o...
by Haven
02 Nov 2014, 14:55
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Letter to a CES Student
Replies: 22
Views: 2027

Re: Letter to a CES Student

Brad Wilcox wrote: She said, “Right! Like I don’t have to do anything?”“Oh no,” I said, “you have plenty to do, but it is not to fill that gap. We will all be resurrected. We will all go back to God’s presence. What is left to be determined by our obedience is what kind of body we plan on being res...
by Haven
02 Nov 2014, 14:29
Forum: Support
Topic: Officially Out of the Closet with DW!
Replies: 7
Views: 712

Re: Officially Out of the Closet with DW!

I'm so happy you're able to be open with her now. That is great news! I'm thinking also about what she shared: She then said that it was only guilt that was keeping her going to church. That if she found out that it wasn't true, it would relieve a huge burden on her. "I've realized that the guilt I ...
by Haven
02 Nov 2014, 14:20
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Moral obligations of a Church
Replies: 17
Views: 965

Re: Moral obligations of a Church

I'm not sure if my question fits with this thread or not, but I didn't see a better thread. I'm wondering if anyone knows or has an opinion about whether tithing money has been used by the World Congress of Families? I've heard that maybe it does. I've never had issues with tithing at all. This coul...