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by Ann
16 Jan 2024, 02:51
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Okay I'll say it, Polygamy
Replies: 48
Views: 15688

Re: Okay I'll say it, Polygamy

I had my big wrestle with polygamy several years ago. In a few (a very few) conversations I’ve had with friends I hear things like, What does this have to do with Jesus Christ? And I say, My point exactly. Nothing. Just like - as the church as admitted - the priesthood ban had nothing at all to do w...
by Ann
13 Dec 2022, 14:14
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested
Replies: 16
Views: 3855

Re: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested

I think it’s horrifying that all the language in Section 132 about destroying women who don’t play ball is still in the canon. I remember the first time I read it at about ten years old. Chilling. And there it is again: leaders having no idea what it’s like to be a present-day woman in the church wi...
by Ann
13 Dec 2022, 02:51
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested
Replies: 16
Views: 3855

Re: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested

I agree that many men and women have loved more than one spouse, and that a harmonious afterlife could very well await them. But I feel like the church uses this common occurrence to downplay the many horrible multi-partner arrangements in 19th and 20th century Mormon polygamy. We get to monsters li...
by Ann
10 Dec 2022, 00:35
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested
Replies: 16
Views: 3855

Re: Breakaway Fundamentalist Sect Leader Arrested

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/polygamous-cult-leader-had-multiple-wives-who-were-minors-fbi-says/ar-AA151Wys?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a72484bcd0941b4a946fb17e9821134 Polygamy continues to be a scourge used to abuse women and underage girls. I hate that the coercion of eternal de...
by Ann
04 Oct 2022, 00:02
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General Conference General Discussion
Replies: 9
Views: 849

Re: General Conference General Discussion

In general, and I can’t remember all the names to cite them, as I listened, my favorite Joseph Campbell (see below) quote came to mind. I thought the talks ran the gamut. Many trying to talk people into belief (and being pretty uncharitable to those who leave), and then others who spoke from what fe...
by Ann
03 Oct 2022, 23:35
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: General Conference General Discussion
Replies: 9
Views: 849

Re: General Conference General Discussion

Had plans to watch conference. God had other plans. :P I missed conference... well I didn't miss conference. There's probably another lame dad joke I could squeeze out of this, but I'll get to my point. What's this about Mormons not wearing crosses? Does anyone external to the church notice or care...
by Ann
08 Sep 2022, 15:26
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?
Replies: 23
Views: 2729

Re: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?

I’m still confused about the Arizona law. The church’s lawyers have said Herrod, and later bishop Robert “Kim” Mauzy, legally withheld information about MJ’s abuse under the state’s clergy-penitent privilege. Arizona law generally requires clergy members to report child neglect and sexual abuse, but...
by Ann
26 Aug 2022, 00:48
Forum: Support
Topic: My daughter has one foot out the door
Replies: 14
Views: 3483

Re: My daughter has one foot out the door

There was for my kids a tumultuous time. Parting ways with the church, letting us know, dealing with friends learning about it and all that. And I worried that maybe I had influenced them too much. But come to find out they each had their own reasons that have nothing to do with me. Your daughter ha...
by Ann
23 Aug 2022, 12:26
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?
Replies: 23
Views: 2729

Re: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?

The Deseret News tremendously long article sketched out arguments for priest-penitent privilege. And the whole subject is complicated, I agree. But… What other religions have done for millennia is usually not a concern of ours. So it read like pretty desperate hand-waiving. Autonomy and control for ...
by Ann
22 Aug 2022, 10:46
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?
Replies: 23
Views: 2729

Re: Is the church on its heels with sex abuse?

DJ wrote: And yes, I am also troubled by the idea that the records are destroyed daily. In the aforementioned state registry even records of unfounded abuse are kept in perpetuity here. And it's actually interesting the church keeps records of an individual even if they are ex'ed or had their names ...