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by Ann
12 Sep 2018, 16:21
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 1195

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

I think the anger isn't always just his behavior, but the frustration of the totally whitewashed version presented by the church. This is how I feel. It’s the lionizing of the man that bothers me. It starts at the top and trickles down to whole sacrament meeting talks and GD lessons and Primary sha...
by Ann
11 Sep 2018, 17:55
Forum: Support
Topic: YSA Fireside
Replies: 35
Views: 1273

Re: YSA Fireside

But the fireside was intended or a much younger audience and probably an audience that is wary of the apologetic stance, at least many of them to some extent. Ithink that's what some of the leadership don't understand - I think this generation really does want a "we report, you decide" kind of thin...
by Ann
09 Sep 2018, 23:17
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak
Replies: 86
Views: 3072

Re: Ex-Bishop Up for Disciplinary Council Regarding Minor Interview Outspeak

I have known Sam for quite a long time. He is a salesman through and through, but has a really big heart. He loves people. He has many of his relatives and children of those close that have come out as gay and it tore him apart to see the pain they went though. He tried the route of voting opposed,...
by Ann
09 Sep 2018, 23:06
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: Saints: the Standard of Truth
Replies: 25
Views: 1183

Re: Saints: the Standard of Truth

That's beside the point though. I think there are certain beliefs that serve as tribal boundaries that mostly tie back to agreeing with the correlated message, whatever it has evolved into in the present. How we reverence top leaders of the church is a part of that correlated message. Step outside ...
by Ann
23 Jun 2018, 09:11
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction
Replies: 26
Views: 1422

Re: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction

I wonder if Oaks' approach (recognizing that there's probably something wrong but deciding to be obedient to authority and remaining hopeful/patient) will work for rising generations? I suppose it has to, what other alternative is there? Or maybe that's the expectation of the members but rather tha...
by Ann
23 Jun 2018, 09:04
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction
Replies: 26
Views: 1422

God works in mysterious ways. So we tell ourselves, when we don't understand why past prophets said what they said. Or we don't want to just accept prophets and church policies were wrong. Again, I would have thought, given what he said about his time in the midwest and east struggling with the ban...
by Ann
23 Jun 2018, 08:54
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction
Replies: 26
Views: 1422

Re: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction

I just listened to clips from Oaks’ talk. I’m amazed. He flat out said the ban was God’s command. What the heck?!? Mormonism has this weird conundrum... officially we follow the current president's counsel over the previous ones, but we still can't admit some of previous ones might have been wrong....
by Ann
23 Jun 2018, 02:19
Forum: History and Doctrine Discussions
Topic: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction
Replies: 26
Views: 1422

Re: President Oaks and the Priesthood Restriction

I just listened to clips from Oaks’ talk. I’m amazed. He flat out said the ban was God’s command. What the heck?!? I know this thread wasn’t in active topics, so I don’t expect more conversation. I just had to add my disbelief. Awhile ago I read (or heard, I can’t remember) Oaks recounting his joy a...
by Ann
23 Jun 2018, 00:18
Forum: Introductions
Topic: My Intro & Hellos
Replies: 9
Views: 720

Re: My Intro & Hellos

I’m a free bird....
This is it for me. I am lonely, but feeling free for the first time is so valuable to me that I “take” everything that accompanies it.

I’m glad you found this site. You’ll get lots of good advice.
by Ann
19 Jun 2018, 19:36
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New hymnal is in the works! Some major, wonderful changes.
Replies: 44
Views: 1708

Re: New hymnal is in the works! Some major, wonderful changes.

The church is seeking input, including original songs. I have submitted the following, though it is to a common tune (as they used to do). (sung to "If You Could Hie to Kolob"): If you could high five Dieter, with a twinkling in his eye, He'd then continue talking 'bout when he used to fly, Do you ...