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by On Own Now
12 Jul 2021, 11:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hard Class I Just Taught
Replies: 15
Views: 7574

Re: Hard Class I Just Taught

A key question regarding 'saved': What, exactly, are we saved from? Christianity from about the third century onward (including in our Church) would answer this as 'saved from judgment'. Jesus suffered in place of us. We can avoid punishment by His Atonement. We are fixing something wrong about us i...
by On Own Now
12 Jul 2021, 09:22
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hard Class I Just Taught
Replies: 15
Views: 7574

Re: Hard Class I Just Taught

My own views, not representative of the Church, BRM, JFS or any other, though I draw a lot of my thoughts from Paul: Saved - this comes from the latin Salvatus , which is the past participle form of Salvare , like Saved is to Save . And note the connection to Christ. We are " saved " by th...
by On Own Now
08 Jul 2021, 14:14
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Weird Situation I'm in
Replies: 22
Views: 7677

Re: Weird Situation I'm in

Hi SD. Fascinating situation. Thanks, for sharing, and I look forward to hearing how it goes. Couple of random thoughts... He said he wanted "to make them think". For me, I don't love when people take it as their mission to point out things to "make them think" (whoever they are)...
by On Own Now
07 Jun 2021, 13:00
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Discontinuing General Women's and Priesthood sessions of General Conference
Replies: 22
Views: 8272

Re: Discontinuing General Women's and Priesthood sessions of General Conference

Beginning with October’s general conference and continuing thereafter, the Saturday evening sessions will be discontinued. Previously, a Saturday evening session was held for women (in October) and priesthood holders (in April). This change is being made because all sessions of general conference a...
by On Own Now
02 Jun 2021, 16:07
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites
Replies: 17
Views: 6699

Re: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites

I know this is a stupid question, but how would they know it was three days? If you take the BofM as literal, then they didn't need to count the hours to know it was three days. Zenos (as recounted in 1Nephi) predicted "three days of darkness" and Samuel the Lamanite said in Helaman that ...
by On Own Now
27 May 2021, 07:35
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites
Replies: 17
Views: 6699

Re: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites

Haha... was typing at the same time as DJ... He said it better than me.
by On Own Now
27 May 2021, 07:34
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites
Replies: 17
Views: 6699

Re: Timing of Christ's appearance to the Nephites

Hi Katzpur, When reading historical or scriptural accounts, it's very common for us to compact the timeline in our minds. Generations go by in a single chapter and we don't easily expand the time in our perception. Just by way of example we generally recognize the ministry of Jesus to have been abou...
by On Own Now
25 May 2021, 10:18
Forum: Support
Topic: Could faith promoting stories be dangerous?
Replies: 39
Views: 14181

Re: Could faith promoting stories be dangerous?

As to whether stories are true... I guess, to me, it doesn't matter how true a story is . The point of these stories is not to relate history. When you hear these stories from Church leaders, the purpose is always to encourage behavior that will achieve the same results. Are you saying that we can ...
by On Own Now
24 May 2021, 13:25
Forum: Support
Topic: Could faith promoting stories be dangerous?
Replies: 39
Views: 14181

Re: Could faith promoting stories be dangerous?

As to whether stories are true... I guess, to me, it doesn't matter how true a story is. The point of these stories is not to relate history. When you hear these stories from Church leaders, the purpose is always to encourage behavior that will achieve the same results. See my Tithing post earlier i...
by On Own Now
18 May 2021, 08:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Faithful Actions Yield Blessings, or Not, or Even Curses?
Replies: 12
Views: 2771

Faithful Actions Yield Blessings, or Not, or Even Curses?

Extracted from another thread (https://forum.staylds.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=10002) because it's leaving the original topic. This brother came up to me after church to ask me more about my perspective. He was confused about how this could be. King Benjamin says that when we obey, God "immed...