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by SilentDawning
18 Dec 2018, 10:14
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Trip to Salt Lake City -- impressions
Replies: 8
Views: 711

Re: My Trip to Salt Lake City -- impressions

F or as much as the church receives complaints about its real estate activities, I have seen church investments revitalize downtown Ogden (by the temple). Haven't been in SLC for a few years but I understand that the church has done similar things there - partnering with the city to create revitali...
by SilentDawning
18 Dec 2018, 10:01
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

I think people colored the truth without realizing that they were coloring the truth and we ended up here mostly because our desire to chase hope outstripped the desire to keep things more grounded. Yeah, I agree. I remember my first post here. When I found the site, it was a perfect fit. I remembe...
by SilentDawning
18 Dec 2018, 07:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

Random thoughts: But that gets me thinking, is the value in coming up with larger than life stories to motivate us to attempt larger than life things or is accuracy more important ? At church we talk about "restoring the gospel" and in some ways we've restored the idea that something can be held up...
by SilentDawning
18 Dec 2018, 07:09
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

In making the decisions he did, he became exactly what he criticized so severely, even if he felt justified. Did he? I wouldn't say he "became" anything g. I was thinking more about this part above...I think we all become something in our relationship to the church. I've become unorthodox, less eng...
by SilentDawning
18 Dec 2018, 06:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

In making the decisions he did, he became exactly what he criticized so severely, even if he felt justified. Did he? I wouldn't say he "became" anything. He critized the Church, among other things, for not being transparent and open. He lied to prevent the Church from hiding what he felt should've ...
by SilentDawning
17 Dec 2018, 07:25
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

From what I see, Bill's making decisions on what he sees is best because if a story in his mind on a cause or purpose that compels him to his actions. Such actions come with consequences. This is how I'm reading it. It's a matter of dropping your own perspective for a minute. If you can adopt the p...
by SilentDawning
16 Dec 2018, 14:11
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

I think that this is a generally good change. It puts me and my 11 year old son in a slightly awkward situation simply because the change was so sudden and I thought we would have an entire year to prepare for priesthood ordination and now we have a few weeks. As a semi-active non-tithe payer getti...
by SilentDawning
16 Dec 2018, 13:21
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

I think that this is a generally good change. It puts me and my 11 year old son in a slightly awkward situation simply because the change was so sudden and I thought we would have an entire year to prepare for priesthood ordination and now we have a few weeks. As a semi-active non-tithe payer getti...
by SilentDawning
15 Dec 2018, 07:44
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(
Replies: 107
Views: 4675

Re: Bill Reel about to get excommunicated? >:-(

Nothing was coerced. Nothing. He had a choice: sign it, make a promise not to record it, and get excommunicated; not sign it, not make a promise not to record it, and get excommunicated. He KNEW what the outcome would be, given what he has said and done. His choice was to be honest in the situation...
by SilentDawning
15 Dec 2018, 04:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives
Replies: 41
Views: 626

Re: 11-Year-Old Deacons and Beehives

I think this is good. Maybe it will reduce the number of massively teenager looking youth standing up there in the primary presentation looking like a fish out of water next to all the young primary kids.