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by SilentDawning
19 Jul 2018, 08:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!
Replies: 15
Views: 296

Re: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!

With point #3, though, I'm interpreting that to mean the Church has not, and most likely will not be able to fulfill your needs (specifically, your need for leadership and meaningful service). Is it possible to be "satisfied enough", if the Church isn't meeting those needs? Because service and lead...
by SilentDawning
18 Jul 2018, 02:10
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!
Replies: 15
Views: 296

Re: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!

Only when I'm completely satisfied with the experience of a Mormon will I give that back again. Do you think this possible? What would it take? I need to qualify 'completely satisfied' to say "satisfied enough". What would it take? 1. A testimony boosting experience that convinces me the church is ...
by SilentDawning
17 Jul 2018, 18:41
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!
Replies: 15
Views: 296

Re: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!

The problem, for me, seems to be giving adulation when there are so many thing I believe are left undone, and I have experienced so much hardship because of my involvement in the church. I thought today that perhaps the solution to the problem is to give the adulation, and let my own "path" be my on...
by SilentDawning
17 Jul 2018, 06:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1026

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

The part I have difficulty with is calling someone that I consider a close friend to repent. That takes cajones. (that can be edited if it offends.) In that respect, I'm not blameless. ONCE, I pointed out that although I believe the church does a lot of good for people, one negative effect of havin...
by SilentDawning
16 Jul 2018, 10:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1026

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I'm a do no harm guy also SD. If he brought up Fanny Alger I'd talk about it. And I might fall into the a trap if he were "baiting" me to talk about my unorthodox/heterodox views by being very assertive with his orthodox views. I think your earlier assessment of just avoiding religious discussion w...
by SilentDawning
16 Jul 2018, 05:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1026

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

SD, where does your friendship stand since this happened? Assuming you're still friends, how will this affect your relationship in the future? The relationship is still good. Those interactions represented only a small portion of the 3 days we spent in the wilderness together. Much of the time was ...
by SilentDawning
14 Jul 2018, 15:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1026

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I still maintain there are lines that, when crossed, marginalize you more than others. One is not going to church for no good reason, another is non-payment of tithing at all, another is not holding a TR, yet another is obvious WoW violations like drinking caffeinated coffee, smoking etcetera. Peopl...
by SilentDawning
14 Jul 2018, 06:40
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 1026

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

As our stake president's wife pointed out "We are ALL cafeteria Mormons and cafeteria humans." When it comes to doctrine, nobody really buys everything that's been said for several reasons: 1) they don't know everything that's been said, 2) leaders have contradicted each other, so which thing do yo...
by SilentDawning
13 Jul 2018, 11:48
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Spiritual Anchors
Replies: 9
Views: 218

Re: Spiritual Anchors

3 - If a prophet or Church leader tells me to do something that is wrong, and I do it anyway, then I will be blessed for my obedience and the Church leader will be punished. This one always stank to me. Anyone who has followed Milgran's authority experiments know this can lead to dire consequences....