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by SilentDawning
16 Jan 2018, 06:13
Forum: Support
Topic: Coming Back into Church after Name Removal when Things went not well
Replies: 9
Views: 142

Re: Coming Back into Church after Name Removal when Things went not well

Your Bishop will likely put you through a slow process of rebaptism, and then gradual restoration of any priesthood offices you might have had. He wont' rush it. He will probably be wary too as I find the church leaders don't take kindly to protest and agitation within the church. He will likely wan...
by SilentDawning
16 Jan 2018, 06:08
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How Candid are you with Non-Members about the church?
Replies: 12
Views: 162

Re: How Candid are you with Non-Members about the church?

Very, but I don't push at all, and I don't bring up general things I see as issues, unless I think it is critical in a particular situation (like if the person is LGBTQ+). An glad to hear this, and from Squarepeg and others who are forthright. There are times I feel I am being disloyal or somehow e...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 11:53
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hi!
Replies: 13
Views: 140

Re: Hi!

Welcome! Glad you found us here. It was breath of fresh air for me many many years ago. Going from memory about your back story, here are a few tips as someone who doesn't like the temple much, doesn't have a TR and has a spouse who shuts down if I go negative on the church. 1. Don't talk about nega...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 09:50
Forum: Book & Media Reviews
Topic: D Michael Quinn -- the Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power
Replies: 1
Views: 31

D Michael Quinn -- the Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power

I talked about this book in a different thread as a sideline. I am working through it, but wanted to share reviews that I thought captured my feelings about it so far: Eugene Grant 4.0 out of 5 starsAltruism of Mormon Leadership Confirmed! December 14, 2017 Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase I...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 09:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Negative Consequences of Excommunication to the Church
Replies: 5
Views: 98

Re: Negative Consequences of Excommunication to the Church

But if you are the person who gets excommunicated, you can become an agent of change, and have nothing left to lose. I think that greater respect is given for those who were excommunicated who are balanced and not trying to rock the boat or get attention, such as D. Michael Quinn sounds to be. Agre...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 09:20
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: How Candid are you with Non-Members about the church?
Replies: 12
Views: 162

How Candid are you with Non-Members about the church?

I have a non-mem friend who has very close dealings with three Mormons -- myself (I consider myself a middle of the road guy,) another guy who has a narcissistic personality disorder and drinks, married a non-member after his temple marriage failed, and is no longer connected, And a balanced, straig...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 09:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Negative Consequences of Excommunication to the Church
Replies: 5
Views: 98

Negative Consequences of Excommunication to the Church

I have been reading D. Michael Quinn's book on "The Mormon Hierarchy: Wealth and Corporate Power". It's a long book, and as a Finance and Accounting Major, I find it actually lacking the kind of rigor I would like to see in financial analysis of financial data. Often, a stream of facts and figures (...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 08:43
Forum: Support
Topic: Keeping up the enthusiasm -- how to counteract the grind?
Replies: 7
Views: 164

Re: Keeping up the enthusiasm -- how to counteract the grind?

I agree with taking a break or hiatus now and then. For example, I think that you could justify taking December and January off due to holidays and people being busy with travel and visiting family. Just send out an email saying that the class is cancelled because of these reasons and will resume o...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 08:32
Forum: Support
Topic: How to Resolve Feelings of Intellectual Dishonesty
Replies: 15
Views: 196

Re: How to Resolve Feelings of Intellectual Dishonesty

See, I wouldn't accept that call unless it was to give people rides or having people over for dinner. and even then I'd have to think about it really hard before agreeing. There is NO WAY I am recruiting people to our religion given the ways I've had to suffer within our gospel of happiness... The W...
by SilentDawning
15 Jan 2018, 08:29
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: The Legacy of Thomas S Monson
Replies: 5
Views: 69

Re: The Legacy of Thomas S Monson

You could add that they also took strides toward more inclusion of women with the a) the elevation of Ward council as the decision-making body b) alternating General Priesthood Meeting and General Relief Society (assuming that happened, I got that from a source that hasn't always been reliable) c) l...