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by SilentDawning
18 Nov 2017, 13:24
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: No other success can compensate for failure in the home
Replies: 19
Views: 312

Re: No other success can compensate for failure in the home

I wish so much that David O. McKay had realized what devastation that statement would bring into the lives of parents like me. You seem to have defined success as children following the textbook path of the church. I decided, when my son was obviously so uninterested in the church from a young age,...
by SilentDawning
18 Nov 2017, 05:59
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: No other success can compensate for failure in the home
Replies: 19
Views: 312

Re: No other success can compensate for failure in the home

This quote SD brings up was one very damaging to my psychie as I went through the down times. At some point...I had to forget about quotes or what others thought or said about definitive statements on success or failure and take it in context of the point or message they are sending. I have to be a...
by SilentDawning
16 Nov 2017, 23:37
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem
Replies: 28
Views: 495

Re: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem

How would it affect society at large? I think you would see more sexually motivated crimes, and fewer restraints on people who have tendencies toward porn. Your suspicion follows the popular opinion, but not the data. The evidence suggests otherwise, which is something I discovered a while back whe...
by SilentDawning
14 Nov 2017, 21:41
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem
Replies: 28
Views: 495

Re: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem

What do you think it is that makes those risks to high? Slippery slope arguments, social taboo, church teaching. What do you think can be done to lower that risk? Discuss it with people here who have said they don't think porn is a big deal, in private messages. Do you think it would be worth it? N...
by SilentDawning
14 Nov 2017, 21:38
Forum: Support
Topic: Heartfelt thanks and (maybe) parting thoughts
Replies: 10
Views: 264

Re: Heartfelt thanks and (maybe) parting thoughts

In a way, I see your post as a kind of milestone for you, where you make an official break with being Mormon, without leaving altogether. I hope you still post here and we can all keep in touch.
by SilentDawning
14 Nov 2017, 05:54
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: No other success can compensate for failure in the home
Replies: 19
Views: 312

Re: No other success can compensate for failure in the home

I still remember when my son refused the priesthood at 12 years of age. We mentioned it to the YM president and his counselor who said "it depends in FHE and Scripture Reading and Prayer is happening in your home". Well, it wasn't happening, but it wasn't my fault either. Wife refused to do it, I tr...
by SilentDawning
13 Nov 2017, 17:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: No other success can compensate for failure in the home
Replies: 19
Views: 312

No other success can compensate for failure in the home

Saw this quote given in, of all places, a book about serial killers and the Mormon Mafia, a set of Mormon FBI agents nicknamed by that name. The author indicated one of the agents had the subject line of this thread on his desk or wall. Got me thinking of how harsh that statement is. How damaging to...
by SilentDawning
13 Nov 2017, 15:05
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem
Replies: 28
Views: 495

Re: Too Many Reasons to Hide a Porn Problem

I read an article a while ago where the person said that for some, porn keeps marriages intact. There are situations where the emotional love is there, but the physical side is missing. Sometimes the woman has a man who can't perform, so she turns to porn to get rid of the tension, and vice versa. T...
by SilentDawning
08 Nov 2017, 09:07
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Objectionable Quote -- does this bother you?
Replies: 20
Views: 425

Re: Objectionable Quote -- does this bother you?

You can quote any prophet you want to me...I can't imagine it changed my experience and my beliefs on the subject. Families are forever. For everyone who wants that. How that happens...i frankly don't think anyone has a clue. To me the greatest sealing power is the love and bonds you establish with...
by SilentDawning
07 Nov 2017, 06:49
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Interesting morning yesterday
Replies: 11
Views: 280

Re: Interesting morning yesterday

I once posted on this topic on a TBM site before I eventually left it.... I said that the best wards are where people genuinely like being together. Often it's because they are like-minded people. I cited how being assigned to friendship someone who is vastly different than I am, only comes out with...