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by SilentDawning
17 Jul 2018, 06:15
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 989

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

The part I have difficulty with is calling someone that I consider a close friend to repent. That takes cajones. (that can be edited if it offends.) In that respect, I'm not blameless. ONCE, I pointed out that although I believe the church does a lot of good for people, one negative effect of havin...
by SilentDawning
16 Jul 2018, 10:31
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 989

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I'm a do no harm guy also SD. If he brought up Fanny Alger I'd talk about it. And I might fall into the a trap if he were "baiting" me to talk about my unorthodox/heterodox views by being very assertive with his orthodox views. I think your earlier assessment of just avoiding religious discussion w...
by SilentDawning
16 Jul 2018, 05:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 989

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

SD, where does your friendship stand since this happened? Assuming you're still friends, how will this affect your relationship in the future? The relationship is still good. Those interactions represented only a small portion of the 3 days we spent in the wilderness together. Much of the time was ...
by SilentDawning
14 Jul 2018, 15:23
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 989

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

I still maintain there are lines that, when crossed, marginalize you more than others. One is not going to church for no good reason, another is non-payment of tithing at all, another is not holding a TR, yet another is obvious WoW violations like drinking caffeinated coffee, smoking etcetera. Peopl...
by SilentDawning
14 Jul 2018, 06:40
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers
Replies: 55
Views: 989

Re: My Tentative Conclusion about gospel convos with Traditional Believers

As our stake president's wife pointed out "We are ALL cafeteria Mormons and cafeteria humans." When it comes to doctrine, nobody really buys everything that's been said for several reasons: 1) they don't know everything that's been said, 2) leaders have contradicted each other, so which thing do yo...
by SilentDawning
13 Jul 2018, 11:48
Forum: Spiritual Stuff
Topic: Spiritual Anchors
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Spiritual Anchors

3 - If a prophet or Church leader tells me to do something that is wrong, and I do it anyway, then I will be blessed for my obedience and the Church leader will be punished. This one always stank to me. Anyone who has followed Milgran's authority experiments know this can lead to dire consequences....
by SilentDawning
13 Jul 2018, 11:38
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!
Replies: 6
Views: 166

Never sure when to give kudos and when not to!

I keep running into this lately. The church has had so many limitations, in my view, for so long, my orientation toward it isn't completely positive all the time. Lately, they have made a lot of positive changes Combining HP and EQ Ministering rather than checkbox Home Teaching Plans for a new Hymn ...
by SilentDawning
13 Jul 2018, 09:30
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?
Replies: 18
Views: 288

Re: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?

I'm not sure how the construct will work, but agree with others it is likely very different than anything we know. I don't think it will be. This life is the time to prepare to meet God, so a lot of what we learn in this life will be relevant. Now, I do think there may be different ways the church ...
by SilentDawning
12 Jul 2018, 03:28
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?
Replies: 18
Views: 288

Re: Would you want to be a leader in the celestial kingdom?

SamBee wrote:
12 Jul 2018, 03:17
I really don't think the afterlife is going to be much like this place in form or content.
But JS or the D&C said the same sociality that exists here on earth will exist in Heaven....