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by GBSmith
18 Oct 2018, 06:08
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Masonry and Metaphor
Replies: 13
Views: 344

Re: Masonry and Metaphor

I think many people find a great deal in attending the temple for no other reason than the feeling they get in a beautiful place that's quiet and peaceful and filled with good decent people. It represents the devotion of people to family history and to their own families, a hope for their marriages,...
by GBSmith
17 Oct 2018, 14:39
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Masonry and Metaphor
Replies: 13
Views: 344

Re: Masonry and Metaphor

felixfabulous wrote:
17 Oct 2018, 14:16
If you are a literal believer, they are one in the same, but with a non-literal belief, it's hard to see a lot there to teach and encourage spiritual development that is not tied to obedience.
agreed
by GBSmith
17 Oct 2018, 12:58
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Masonry and Metaphor
Replies: 13
Views: 344

Re: Masonry and Metaphor

I'm interested as a master mason as to the reasons JS adopted and adapted the ritual. Was it to teach, add another level of charisma to ensure loyalty of his inner circle, further enforce secrecy to keep everything quiet about polygamy, introduce his ideas of sealing and family ties as regards salva...
by GBSmith
16 Oct 2018, 13:55
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Sunday Worship
Replies: 21
Views: 599

Re: New Sunday Worship

Having it first has always given me the impression of just getting it over with so we can get on to more important things. But then most members wouldn't show up for the first 40 minutes of sacrament meeting! :lol: I think you'd be surprised. In the Episcopal church worship is divided into the litu...
by GBSmith
16 Oct 2018, 10:44
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: New Sunday Worship
Replies: 21
Views: 599

Re: New Sunday Worship

My preference would be to have the Sacrament at the end, as the culminating event. Agreed. Every Christian church service that I've ever attended places the eucharist/sacrament at the end. Having it first has always given me the impression of just getting it over with so we can get on to more impor...
by GBSmith
12 Sep 2018, 17:50
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 1099

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

I'm not sure comparing JS to Jesus is a step up for him or a step down for the Savior, but I think it's a step too far. Why? Seriously, why? I chose my words VERY carefully. I was crystal clear in my comparison. It wasn't Joseph to Jesus. It was a statement about "all famous prophets". It was quali...
by GBSmith
12 Sep 2018, 10:17
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Joseph Smith makes me angry
Replies: 36
Views: 1099

Re: Joseph Smith makes me angry

All of these contradictions are true: * Plagiarist vs original thinker. * Poor leader vs great leader. * Unfairly treated vs treating others unfairly. * His legacy stands vs his legacy is divided. * A builder of cities vs a breaker of homes. * A family man vs an adulterer. I guess if he didn't clai...
by GBSmith
04 Sep 2018, 12:31
Forum: Support
Topic: SL Tribune: Church not handling sexual assault well for missionaries
Replies: 29
Views: 1078

Re: SL Tribune: Church not handling sexual assault well for missionaries

Very interesting post. RE: RMN's comments about missionary safety I remember the mission president when we were working in New Zealand speak in stake conference and tell a story about one of his elders that was on his bike and hit by a car. After bouncing off he got up, brushed himself off, and GQ'd...
by GBSmith
04 Sep 2018, 11:18
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Can Women Matter?
Replies: 9
Views: 392

Re: Can Women Matter?

A while back I mentioned that when my wife was released as YW president the bishop said that he wished she could be one of his counselors given her contributions in ward council, etc.. I expect we could get along without women in the running of the church but we'd be sorry, real sorry. Just sayin'.
by GBSmith
17 Aug 2018, 17:02
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual
Replies: 20
Views: 645

Re: Nelson's Version of PoX as Revelation in Seminary Manual

Strike one was this morning when I read that RMN felt prompted by the Lord for us to not be called Mormons anymore. This is strike two. When the third shoe drops (sorry about mixing metaphors), I'm going to start looking for the exit. I'm 73 and have been lucky enough to have known enough LGBTQ peop...